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191 - Revolutionizing our understanding of mental illness with optogenetics

Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://bit.ly/4c602k2 View show notes for this episode: https://bit.ly/3nxroak Karl Deisseroth is a world-renowned clinical psychiatrist, neuroscientist, and author of Projections: A Story of Human Emotions. In the episode, Karl explains his unique career path that led to the development of optogenetics—a revolutionary technique that uses specialized light-sensitive ion channels to precisely control the activity of select populations of neurons. Karl provides a concise overview of how optogenetics works and how it can be used to better understand mental illness, to identify the neurons responsible for specific behaviors, and to guide development of new treatments. Karl uses his experience as a practicing psychiatrist to provide deep insights into depression, anxiety, autism, and personality disorders and explains the role of optogenetics in mapping out brain regions responsible for common mental health afflictions. We discuss: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:10 - Karl’s journey through medical school and interest in the brain 00:14:51 - A profound medical school experience that changed Karl’s career path to psychiatry 00:25:07 - Karl’s commitment to research and challenges overcome early in his career 00:32:43 - The state of psychiatry and mental health therapies when Karl started his lab in 2004 00:38:13 - Neuroscience 101: fundamentals of neuroanatomy and neurophysiology 00:48:05 - Traditional techniques for identifying the brain regions involved in specific behaviors 00:52:30 - Intro to optogenetics and how to get a gene into a neuron 01:04:50 - How viruses helped make optogenetics possible 01:19:41 - How optogenetics was used to investigate the effects of dopamine neurons 01:27:02 - Appreciating the power of optogenetics 01:32:42 - Investigating and treating anxiety with optogenetics 01:45:12 - Autism and autism-related anxiety, and the potential of optogenetics in treating autism 01:52:41 - Optogenetics as a powerful tool for the discovery and creation of medical treatments 01:55:59 - Karl’s inspiration to write his book, Projections 02:01:44 - Mania and bipolar disorder: evolutionary basis, symptoms, and the high prevalence in North America 02:13:50 - Depression: evolutionary basis and insights from optogenetics 02:31:03 - The effects of trauma early in life -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 35 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://bit.ly/3nxroak Subscribe to receive exclusive subscriber-only content: https://bit.ly/3rkeCwS Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://bit.ly/3A8PltK Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle

Peter AttiahostKarl Deisserothguest
Jan 17, 20222h 42mWatch on YouTube ↗

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January 17, 2022
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Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://bit.ly/4c602k2 View show notes for this episode: https://bit.ly/3nxroak Karl Deisseroth is a world-renowned clinical psychiatrist, neuroscientist, and author of Projections: A Story of Human Emotions. In the episode, Karl explains his unique career path that led to the development of optogenetics—a revolutionary technique that uses specialized light-sensitive ion channels to precisely control the activity of select populations of neurons. Karl provides a concise overview of how optogenetics works and how it can be used to better understand mental illness, to identify the neurons responsible for specific behaviors, and to guide development of new treatments. Karl uses his experience as a practicing psychiatrist to provide deep insights into depression, anxiety, autism, and personality disorders and explains the role of optogenetics in mapping out brain regions responsible for common mental health afflictions. We discuss: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:10 - Karl’s journey through medical school and interest in the brain 00:14:51 - A profound medical school experience that changed Karl’s career path to psychiatry 00:25:07 - Karl’s commitment to research and challenges overcome early in his career 00:32:43 - The state of psychiatry and mental health therapies when Karl started his lab in 2004 00:38:13 - Neuroscience 101: fundamentals of neuroanatomy and neurophysiology 00:48:05 - Traditional techniques for identifying the brain regions involved in specific behaviors 00:52:30 - Intro to optogenetics and how to get a gene into a neuron 01:04:50 - How viruses helped make optogenetics possible 01:19:41 - How optogenetics was used to investigate the effects of dopamine neurons 01:27:02 - Appreciating the power of optogenetics 01:32:42 - Investigating and treating anxiety with optogenetics 01:45:12 - Autism and autism-related anxiety, and the potential of optogenetics in treating autism 01:52:41 - Optogenetics as a powerful tool for the discovery and creation of medical treatments 01:55:59 - Karl’s inspiration to write his book, Projections 02:01:44 - Mania and bipolar disorder: evolutionary basis, symptoms, and the high prevalence in North America 02:13:50 - Depression: evolutionary basis and insights from optogenetics 02:31:03 - The effects of trauma early in life -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 35 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://bit.ly/3nxroak Subscribe to receive exclusive subscriber-only content: https://bit.ly/3rkeCwS Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://bit.ly/3A8PltK Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle

SPEAKERS

  • Peter Attia

    host

    Physician and host of The Drive podcast focused on health, medicine, and longevity.

  • Karl Deisseroth

    guest

    Stanford psychiatrist and neuroscientist, pioneer of optogenetics and author of "Projections".

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Peter Attia MD, featuring Peter Attia and Karl Deisseroth, 191 - Revolutionizing our understanding of mental illness with optogenetics explores karl Deisseroth traces optogenetics from psychiatry ward to mental illness insights Deisseroth describes switching from planned neurosurgery to psychiatry after a transformative rotation on a locked VA unit, then combining a research-track residency with a postdoc in Rob Malenka's lab while raising his son.

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