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#83 – Bill Harris, Ph.D.: Omega-3 fatty acids

Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://bit.ly/4c602k2 Original release date: 12/9/19 In this episode, Bill Harris, Ph.D. in human nutrition and expert on omega-3 fatty acids, sets the table by clearly defining the families of fatty acids (saturated, monounsaturated, polyunsaturated) before diving into the current landscape of polyunsaturated fat (omega-6 and omega-3) with a particular focus on EPA and DHA (the two main elements of fish oil supplements). Bill gives a historical overview, updates us on the latest science related to the health benefits, and provides plenty of insights as to how we should think about increasing our EPA and DHA intake. We discuss: -Bill’s long history of studying fatty acids [6:30]; -Defining the fatty acids—SFA, MUFA, PUFA, omega-3, omega-6, and more [9:45]; -What is the significance of fatty acids? Why should we care? [19:45]; -History of fat phobia, saturated fat, and does PUFA reduce cholesterol? [23:45]; -Breaking down the conversion process of omega-6 and omega-3 fatty acids including how we get to EPA and DHA [28:00]; -Takeaway from Bill’s 1980 study looking at how salmon oil affected cholesterol and triglyceride levels [36:15]; -History of our understanding of omega-3 and its effect on LDL cholesterol [45:00]; -Prescribed fish oil drugs vs. OTC supplements—Differences and recommended brands [52:00]; -Health benefits of EPA [57:45]; -Potential benefits of ALA and how it compares to taking EPA and DHA directly [1:12:45]; -Health benefits of DHA [1:17:15]; -Cell membrane omega-3 index—What is it, the role of genetics, how to increase it, and a recommended target [1:19:00]; -Is EPA or DHA neuroprotective? Can it help with depression? [1:23:30]; -Recommended fish to eat for EPA and DHA – Any mercury concerns? [1:25:45]; -Can omega-3 mitigate risks associated with smoking? [1:29:15]; -The problem with the omega-6 to omega-3 ratio [1:30:00]; -The problem with labeling any kind of fatty acid as “bad” [1:36:00]; -Why increasing EPA and DHA intake matters more than reducing omega-6 intake [1:38:00]; -Important takeaway from the VITAL study [1:46:30]; -Importance of testing your omega-3 index [1:53:00]; -Exciting study coming out soon, and why you need to take your fish oil with food [1:57:15]; and -More. Show notes page: https://peterattiamd.com/billharris/ -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 30 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Subscribe to receive exclusive subscriber-only content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle

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Jan 14, 20202h 2mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Bill Harris Explains Omega-3s, EPA, DHA, and Heart Health

  1. Harris walks through fatty acid chemistry, from saturated to monounsaturated to polyunsaturated, and the omega-6 (LA to AA) and omega-3 (ALA to EPA to DHA) pathways.
  2. He recounts his early salmon oil work, which showed that fish oil lowered triglycerides, and describes how high-dose supplements in people with high triglycerides raised LDL, largely through DHA slowing LDL receptor clearance.
  3. The discussion of REDUCE-IT (4 g pure EPA, about 25% fewer cardiovascular events) and VITAL (850 mg EPA/DHA, neutral primary endpoint but promising signals) frames what high and low doses may do.
  4. Harris argues that omega-6 fatty acids and linoleic acid are not harmful, that arachidonic acid levels are tightly controlled, and that omega-6:omega-3 and AA:EPA ratios are misleading compared with simply raising EPA and DHA.
  5. Practical topics include the omega-3 index (target 8-12% in red cells), fish choices and mercury, supplement quality, absorption of ethyl esters versus free fatty acids, and the upcoming STRENGTH trial.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Small chemical differences produce large functional differences.

Saturated, monounsaturated, and polyunsaturated fats differ by the number of double bonds, and the omega-3 versus omega-6 label depends on where the first double bond sits, which changes physical properties and the metabolites made.

Pure EPA at 4 g reduced cardiovascular events in REDUCE-IT.

In about 8,000 statin-treated patients with triglycerides of roughly 150-500, events fell about 25%, even though triglycerides dropped only around 15% and LDL barely changed, suggesting mechanisms beyond lipid lowering such as inflammation resolution, platelet effects, and heart rate variability.

The low-dose VITAL result was less negative than headlines suggested.

Harris says the composite primary endpoint was not significant, but heart attacks fell about 20% and people eating less than 1.5 fish meals a week benefited, and these signals came from only 850 mg a day in low-risk people.

High-dose omega-3 can raise LDL in people with high triglycerides.

Harris describes studies using about 6 g a day in hypertriglyceridemic patients where LDL cholesterol and ApoB rose, which he attributes mainly to DHA slowing LDL receptor clearance, though he says its clinical meaning is unknown.

Harris does not see omega-6 as the villain.

He cites large meta-analyses where higher blood linoleic acid was linked to lower risk of heart disease and diabetes, with arachidonic acid neutral, and notes that less than 1% of dietary LA becomes AA.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

If Americans had just reduced saturated fat and replaced it with mono and polyunsaturated fats, we wouldn't have had this problem.

— Bill Harris

You can change ratios all day long by just changing the denominator.

— Bill Harris

The benefits of eating fish, even if there's some mercury in it, far outweigh the downside of the mercury.

— Bill Harris

What people don't balance is the extreme safety of these products and cheapness. We're looking at something, even one capsule of Vaser. It's cheap, it's completely safe, it doesn't interact with anything, and if there's even a hint of benefit, why wouldn't you promote it?

— Bill Harris

I don't care about looking at metabolic charts and what pathway intersects with what pathway or competes. That's swell. But at the end of the day, if omega-6 levels are high and that's associated with reduced risk for diabetes and heart disease, that's a very powerful testimony to me that the omega-6s are good.

— Bill Harris

Fatty acid chemistry and nomenclatureOmega-3 and omega-6 metabolic pathwaysREDUCE-IT and VITAL trialsEPA versus DHA effectsOmega-3 index and red blood cell testingDebate over omega-6 and fatty acid ratiosFish, mercury, and supplement choices

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