How Trump's Tariff Chaos Is Costing America | Pivot

President Donald Trump’s chaotic tariff policies have sent markets into a tailspin, with the EU and Canada imposing billions in retaliatory tariffs. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway break down the economic turmoil, the looming risk of a “Trump-cession,” and why business leaders are panicking. Plus, Amazon strikes a deal to stream "The Apprentice," California Governor Gavin Newsom faces criticism for his Steve Bannon interview, and Trump and Musk's White House Tesla stunt raises eyebrows. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 04:37 - Amazon "Apprentice" Deal 13:15 - Gavin Newsom's Bannon Interview 26:41 - Tariff Roller Coaster 34:51 - Recession Concerns 43:24 - White House Tesla Ad 52:58 - Predictions #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #donaldtrump #elonmusk #stevebannon #gavinnewsom #amazon #theapprentice #tariffs #tesla #doge Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Video Editor: Ronnie Polidoro Vox Media's Executive Producer of Audio: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

Kara SwisherhostScott GallowayhostDonald TrumpguestJournalist/Interviewerguest

Mar 14, 202559mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: March 14, 2025
Duration: 59m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

President Donald Trump’s chaotic tariff policies have sent markets into a tailspin, with the EU and Canada imposing billions in retaliatory tariffs. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway break down the economic turmoil, the looming risk of a “Trump-cession,” and why business leaders are panicking. Plus, Amazon strikes a deal to stream "The Apprentice," California Governor Gavin Newsom faces criticism for his Steve Bannon interview, and Trump and Musk's White House Tesla stunt raises eyebrows. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 04:37 - Amazon "Apprentice" Deal 13:15 - Gavin Newsom's Bannon Interview 26:41 - Tariff Roller Coaster 34:51 - Recession Concerns 43:24 - White House Tesla Ad 52:58 - Predictions #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #donaldtrump #elonmusk #stevebannon #gavinnewsom #amazon #theapprentice #tariffs #tesla #doge Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Video Editor: Ronnie Polidoro Vox Media's Executive Producer of Audio: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

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Kara Swisher
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Scott Galloway
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Donald Trump
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, How Trump's Tariff Chaos Is Costing America | Pivot explores trump Tariffs, Musk Pay-to-Play, and How Chaos Hurts America Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway dissect the economic fallout from Trump’s erratic tariffs, arguing they raise prices, depress demand, and erode global trust in the U.S. as a trading partner. They connect this to a broader pattern of soft corruption, from Amazon’s Trump-related media deals to Elon Musk’s apparent pay-to-play relationship with Trump over Teslas and Starlink. The hosts also critique Gavin Newsom’s new podcast for normalizing extremist right-wing figures without meaningful fact-checking, framing it as a political move rather than genuine dialogue. Throughout, they warn that policy-by-stunt—on trade, EVs, and deregulation—benefits a few powerful players while structurally weakening U.S. competitiveness and institutions.

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