Shutdown Ending: Did Democrats Cave for Nothing? | Pivot

The Pivot Tour rolls on! Kara and Scott are live from Brooklyn with special guest Curtis Sliwa, founder of the Guardian Angels and former NYC mayoral candidate, to talk about his campaign, his cats, and more. Then, the government shutdown appears to be coming to an end, and Trump issues another round of pardons. Plus, the Supreme Court rejects a call to overturn its same-sex marriage decision, and a New York Times piece stirs backlash over women in the workplace. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 2:00 Curtis Sliwa’s Life and Mayoral Run 25:50 Government Shutdown Ending 34:47 Trump Grants More Pardons 39:10 NYT Gets Heat for Women in the Workplace Piece 46:13 SCOTUS Rejects Challenge to Same-Sex Marriage Decision 49:01 Scott’s Male Role Models 55:25 Q&A #pivot #podcast #pivottour #karaswisher #scottgalloway #shutdown #curtissliwa #supremecourt #newyorktimes #pardons Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Video Editor: Jim Mackil Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

Curtis SliwaguestScott GallowayhostKara Swisherhost

Nov 12, 20251h 11mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: November 12, 2025
Duration: 1h 11m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

The Pivot Tour rolls on! Kara and Scott are live from Brooklyn with special guest Curtis Sliwa, founder of the Guardian Angels and former NYC mayoral candidate, to talk about his campaign, his cats, and more. Then, the government shutdown appears to be coming to an end, and Trump issues another round of pardons. Plus, the Supreme Court rejects a call to overturn its same-sex marriage decision, and a New York Times piece stirs backlash over women in the workplace. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 2:00 Curtis Sliwa’s Life and Mayoral Run 25:50 Government Shutdown Ending 34:47 Trump Grants More Pardons 39:10 NYT Gets Heat for Women in the Workplace Piece 46:13 SCOTUS Rejects Challenge to Same-Sex Marriage Decision 49:01 Scott’s Male Role Models 55:25 Q&A #pivot #podcast #pivottour #karaswisher #scottgalloway #shutdown #curtissliwa #supremecourt #newyorktimes #pardons Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Video Editor: Jim Mackil Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

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Curtis Sliwa
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Scott Galloway
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Kara Swisher
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Curtis Sliwa and Scott Galloway, Shutdown Ending: Did Democrats Cave for Nothing? | Pivot explores live Pivot: Sliwa, Shutdown Surrender, AI Fears, and Masculinity In this live episode of Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway interview Curtis Sliwa about his New York City mayoral run, his animal-rights populism, and the origins of the Guardian Angels, framing him as a colorful, anti-billionaire outsider. They then pivot to a blistering critique of Democrats’ handling of the recent government shutdown, arguing that party leaders squandered leverage and betrayed voters on healthcare and economic security. The conversation broadens into cultural debates over gender, work, masculinity, and childcare, touching on same-sex marriage, Ross Douthat’s feminism column, and Galloway’s new book on men. Audience Q&A closes the show with concerns about AI’s risks and promise, and personal questions on parenting, marriage, and male role models.

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