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Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss Donald Trump’s wheeling and dealing visit to the Middle East, the Meta antitrust trial, and the return of HBO Max. Plus, Apple could raise iPhone prices, but without blaming tariffs, and RFK Jr. went swimming…in sewage? Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 6:31 Kara’s Mention at the Meta Trial 16:52 Apple Raising iPhone Prices? 26:18 Max No More 36:41 Fox To Launch Streamer 38:15 Trump’s Middle East Trip 48:05 RFK Jr.’s Busy (and Bizarre) Week 54:11 Predictions #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #meta #apple #iphone #hbomax #hbo #fox #trump #donaldtrump #middleeast #qatar #ai #rfkjr #robertfkennedyjr Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

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May 16, 20251h 1mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Trump’s Middle East Deal Tour Mixes Grift, AI, And Geopolitics

  1. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway open with personal banter before diving into Meta’s antitrust fight, Apple’s supply-chain headaches under Trump-era tariffs, and Warner Bros. Discovery’s chaotic HBO/Max branding reversals.
  2. They argue Meta faces a strong antitrust case despite its attacks on journalists, and that Apple’s focus is being diverted from innovation to re-engineering its manufacturing footprint due to US–China tensions.
  3. On media, they call HBO one of the strongest brands in entertainment and blast David Zaslav’s decision to drop and now restore the HBO name as a massive, avoidable brand blunder tied to a badly governed company.
  4. In politics, they dissect Trump’s “Deal-a-Palooza” tour in the Middle East as a risky blend of statecraft and family enrichment, critique RFK Jr.’s anti-vaccine record and public-health leadership, and predict Trump will never actually use the Qatari-funded plane as Air Force One for security reasons.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Meta’s legal strategy is undermined by petty attacks on journalists.

Instead of cleanly contesting antitrust allegations, Meta’s lawyers are trying to discredit critics like Kara Swisher and Om Malik, which Scott and Kara argue is both ineffective and revealing of the company’s victim mindset and poor ‘email hygiene’ that left incriminating evidence.

US antitrust enforcement around acquisitions is at an inflection point.

Scott contends that Meta’s internal emails about buying competitors to avoid competition are a textbook antitrust violation; if regulators lose this case, he suggests it may signal the effective collapse of acquisition-based antitrust enforcement.

Trump’s tariffs are pushing manufacturing to India, not back to America.

Apple’s scramble to shift production from China to India—at higher cost—shows how Trump’s trade policy is reshaping supply chains globally while distracting executives like Tim Cook from focusing on next-generation products and innovation.

HBO remains a premier content brand that Warner Bros. Discovery mishandled.

They argue that killing and now reviving the HBO name squandered billions in brand equity; HBO punches far above its weight in cultural impact with a fraction of Netflix’s content spend, and should be preserved as an ‘artisanal’ flagship brand.

Warner Bros. Discovery is likely headed for a ‘good bank / bad bank’ split.

Scott predicts HBO + Warner Bros. studio/IP will be separated from shrinking cable and TV assets, with the latter consolidated (likely with Comcast) to service debt, while the premium content side trades at a higher multiple.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

If the FTC doesn’t win on this one, that’s it. Let’s just stop all cases.

Scott Galloway (on Meta’s antitrust case)

He’s taken tens of billions of dollars, or at least billions in equity, and he’s taken it into the street and created a fire to warm his ego.

Scott Galloway (on David Zaslav dropping the HBO brand)

This defines antitrust.

Scott Galloway (on Meta’s ‘better to acquire than compete’ emails)

Don’t fuck it up, David.

Kara Swisher (on HBO’s future under Warner Bros. Discovery)

Our interests are not being represented. The Trump family’s interests are.

Scott Galloway (on Trump’s Middle East deals)

Meta antitrust case and its attacks on media criticsApple’s tariffs, supply-chain shift from China, and innovation stallWarner Bros. Discovery’s HBO/Max branding chaos and likely breakupFox’s new streaming ambitions and the crowded conservative media marketTrump’s Middle East trip: AI deals, nuclear ambitions, and overt griftRFK Jr.’s role at HHS, anti-vaccine advocacy, and public health risksBroader concerns about US brain drain, alliances, and institutional competence

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