What Mark Zuckerberg Gets Wrong About "Masculine Energy" | Pivot

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss Mark Zuckerberg's MAGA makeover, and his recent appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast. They unpack his call for "masculine energy" in corporate culture, and examine what masculine energy actually means. #pivot #podcast #markzuckerberg #joerogan #masculinenergy Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

Kara SwisherhostMark ZuckerbergguestScott Gallowayhost

Jan 14, 20257mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: January 14, 2025
Duration: 7m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss Mark Zuckerberg's MAGA makeover, and his recent appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast. They unpack his call for "masculine energy" in corporate culture, and examine what masculine energy actually means. #pivot #podcast #markzuckerberg #joerogan #masculinenergy Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

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Kara Swisher
host
Mark Zuckerberg
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Scott Galloway
host

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Kara Swisher and Mark Zuckerberg, What Mark Zuckerberg Gets Wrong About "Masculine Energy" | Pivot explores kara Swisher and Scott Galloway Dismantle Zuckerberg’s ‘Masculine Energy’ Rhetoric Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway critique Mark Zuckerberg’s recent comments on “masculine energy” from his Joe Rogan appearance and broader rightward rebranding. They argue that framing corporate culture in gendered terms is intellectually shallow and largely a cover for pragmatic, profit-driven moves like rolling back moderation and DEI. Galloway offers an alternative definition of masculinity centered on protection, service, and surplus value—traits he says Zuckerberg is not demonstrating. Swisher emphasizes that protective, aggressive energy isn’t inherently masculine and sees Zuckerberg’s posturing as a personal midlife crisis with significant societal consequences.

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