What's Elon's Next Move After X CEO Exit? | Pivot

Kara and Scott discuss Linda Yaccarino's exit from X, the major problems with xAI's chatbot Grok, and President Trump’s continued tariff chaos. Plus, trouble at Tesla, a big shake-up at Apple, and Shein's IPO filing in Hong Kong. #karaswisher #scottgalloway #pivotpodcast #lindayaccarino #x #elonmusk #grok #ceos #trump #tariffs #tesla #apple #shien Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 00:26 X CEO Steps Down 12:23 Grok’s Antisemitic Rant 19:32 Tesla Troubles 24:56 Tariffs Galore 37:49 Apple’s Shake-Up 47:03 Shein Files for IPO in Hong Kong 51:31 Predictions Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

Kara SwisherhostScott Gallowayhost

Jul 11, 202559mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Released: July 11, 2025
Duration: 59m
Channel: Pivot
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Kara and Scott discuss Linda Yaccarino's exit from X, the major problems with xAI's chatbot Grok, and President Trump’s continued tariff chaos. Plus, trouble at Tesla, a big shake-up at Apple, and Shein's IPO filing in Hong Kong. #karaswisher #scottgalloway #pivotpodcast #lindayaccarino #x #elonmusk #grok #ceos #trump #tariffs #tesla #apple #shien Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 00:26 X CEO Steps Down 12:23 Grok’s Antisemitic Rant 19:32 Tesla Troubles 24:56 Tariffs Galore 37:49 Apple’s Shake-Up 47:03 Shein Files for IPO in Hong Kong 51:31 Predictions Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

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Scott Galloway
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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, What's Elon's Next Move After X CEO Exit? | Pivot explores linda Yaccarino Exits X As Musk Pivots From Ads To AI Gamble Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway unpack Linda Yaccarino’s resignation as CEO of X, arguing she was a figurehead in a doomed ad-based model under Elon Musk. They frame Musk’s ownership of Twitter/X as a catalyst for two major shifts: mass tech layoffs proving “minimum viable staff,” and a move from ad-driven social media toward AI and paid services powered by social data. The episode also criticizes Musk’s tolerance of hate speech on X and Grok’s antisemitic outputs, questioning his fitness for media and outlining the competitive opening this created for Meta’s Threads. In the second half, they briefly hit Trump’s performative tariff threats, Apple’s succession question post–Jeff Williams, and Shein’s likely Hong Kong IPO as symbols of broader geopolitical and economic realignments.

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