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Regulate Your Nervous System, Sleep Better and Find Joy | Dr Kristen Holmes

Join my Built To Thrive community here https://links.drchatterjee.com/4jayYW3 This episode is brought to you by: LINGO BY ABBOTT: For users in the US and UK, Lingo by Abbott is offering an exclusive 10% off a 4-week plan with the code LIVEMORE10. Just visit https://hellolingo.com/livemore for more information. Terms and conditions apply. Are you in control of your nervous system, or is it controlling you? And what if some of the simplest daily habits could help you sleep better and handle stress more effectively? In this episode, I’m joined by Dr Kristen Holmes, Global Head of Human Performance and Principal Scientist at WHOOP, to explore how we can build a more resilient nervous system. In her new book, Aligned, Kristen brings together physiology and psychology to explain how our daily habits shape our health and how we respond to life’s challenges. Kristen shares four simple, free behaviours, tested by 39,000 people, that can support better sleep and recovery. We discuss why morning light matters, how consistent sleep and wake times can improve your wellbeing, and the health metric Kristen would choose if she could track just one. She also explains why some of us fall ill just as we finally take a holiday. But this conversation goes beyond physical health. Kristen speaks openly about her childhood and how she found a path towards forgiveness. We explore why we sometimes soothe uncomfortable emotions with food or scrolling, and why lasting change begins with understanding ourselves rather than criticising ourselves. Kristen also shares why living in line with your values matters, how self-compassion can help us change, and what it means to cultivate joy rather than constantly chase happiness. Whether you want to improve your sleep or understand why changing your habits can feel so difficult, this conversation offers practical advice alongside a deeper look at what it means to live with greater purpose and an open heart. 🌱 Want to feel better and live more? Subscribe for new conversations that could change how you think about your health and your life. ________________________________________ Episode Chapters 00:00 Introduction 00:03 Why Nervous System Regulation Matters 03:20 How to Build a More Resilient Nervous System 09:20 Where to Start: Body or Mind? 11:36 Internal vs External Control 15:45 4 Habits to Improve Sleep and Stress 27:33 Why Sleep-Wake Consistency Matters 30:55 VO₂ Max: A Key Measure of Your Health 44:01 Time-Restricted Eating Explained 52:10 The 80/20 Rule for Health and Recovery 54:28 How to Find Your Natural Sleep Rhythm 01:02:52 Stimulants and Better Sleep 01:07:34 Circadian Rhythm and Mental Health 01:09:03 Purpose, Values and Living in Alignment 01:14:25 How to Live in Line With Your Values 01:18:41 Kristen’s Personal Story Behind Aligned 01:22:23 Forgiveness: How to Let Go of Anger 01:26:12 Trauma, Fear and Trust 01:39:20 Happiness vs Joy: What’s the Difference? 01:42:01 Love, Peace and Spirituality 01:49:56 Where to Start With Lasting Change Connect with Kristen: https://www.instagram.com/drkristenholmes/ Kristen’s book: Aligned: The Data-Driven Guide to Performance, Recovery and Human Potential UK https://link.amazon/B0hHhhMEI US https://link.amazon/B0eSH5AKV #feelbetterlivemore #feelbetterlivemorepodcast The Thrive Tour: Transform Your Health and Happiness, a live show: Book Your Tickets https://drchatterjee.com/live ----- Follow Dr Chatterjee at: Website: https://drchatterjee.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drchatterjee Twitter: https://twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Newsletter: https://drchatterjee.com/subscription DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

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Oct 28, 20261h 55mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Four free habits to regulate stress, sleep consistently, and live aligned

  1. Dr. Kristen Holmes and Dr. Rangan Chatterjee frame autonomic nervous system regulation as central to health, performance, and the ability to respond well in relationships rather than react from dysregulation.
  2. Holmes describes the autonomic nervous system’s sympathetic and parasympathetic branches and explains how markers like heart rate variability (HRV) reflect autonomic responsiveness relative to a personal baseline.
  3. They discuss a WHOOP-based study challenge with four accessible behaviors—12-hour time-restricted eating, morning natural light, brief breathing practices (including the physiological sigh), and zone 2 movement—finding benefits that were mediated by improved sleep-wake consistency.
  4. The conversation emphasizes circadian rhythm and timing (light, food, activity, and wind-down) as key drivers of sleep quality and mental wellbeing, arguing that modern “bright nights and dark days” can create biological confusion.
  5. Holmes shifts from physiology into “alignment” with values and purpose, sharing personal trauma and outlining frameworks (e.g., trust vs fear, forgiveness, loving-kindness meditation) as pathways toward regulation, resilience, and deeper joy.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

A robust autonomic nervous system is framed as the foundation for health, performance, and how you show up in relationships.

She argues that the ability to respond in a way that matches “who you want to be in the world” is constrained by nervous-system regulation, and that recovery habits are central to building capacity.

Autonomic regulation is presented as the ability to shift between activation and deactivation with awareness.

She describes the ANS as part of the peripheral nervous system with sympathetic and parasympathetic branches sending competing signals to the heart; regulation shows up as the heart’s ability to respond appropriately to demands.

Four “free” behaviors are positioned as practical levers that improve sleep-wake consistency and, through it, autonomic and cardiorespiratory markers.

In a large WHOOP-platform challenge (39,000 participants), she tested time-restricted eating, morning light exposure, slow-paced breathing (including the “physiological sigh”), and zone 2 training; the study found improvements in sleep-wake consistency, which then related to improved resting heart rate and heart rate variability.

Sleep-wake consistency is treated as a stabilizing behavior with wide-ranging links to health and functioning.

She says sleep-wake consistency (regular bed and wake times) drives sleep quality, and sleep quality is the sleep metric she calls linearly correlated with HRV; she also emphasizes individual sensitivity and the need to self-audit a workable timing window.

VO₂ max is presented as a single, actionable “big picture” metric that reflects overall cardiorespiratory and autonomic-related fitness.

She notes HRV is sensitive and variable day-to-day, and says if she could choose one metric for a health snapshot, she’d pick VO₂ max because it’s highly correlated with HRV/resting heart rate and is highly actionable.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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And it's very difficult to do that when you have a dysregulated nervous system.

— Dr. Kristen Holmes

Instead of thinking about the thing that matters to us, because it might be a little uncomfortable, we soothe it with the food or scrolling or, you know, we, we basically try to mute that signal.

— Dr. Kristen Holmes

Having agency over your internal landscape, you know?

— Dr. Kristen Holmes

It's confusion at a cellular level.

— Dr. Kristen Holmes

Like, you have to love yourself first. Like, there's no other path to having an open heart. Like, you have to love yourself first.

— Dr. Kristen Holmes

Autonomic nervous system regulation (sympathetic vs parasympathetic)Heart rate variability and resting heart rateSleep-wake consistency and circadian alignmentFour-behavior protocol: time-restricted eating, morning light, breathing, zone 2VO₂ max as a health snapshot metricModern life “confusion” from light, stimulation, and timingValues, identity, trust vs fear, forgiveness, loving-kindness meditation

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