Shannon Hale is the author of more than 50 books for all ages, including the Princess Academy series and her graphic novel memoirs. In this episode, Adam and his daughter Joanna (a longtime fan of Shannon’s books) talk to Shannon about the powerful lessons books teach us about empathy, and take a closer look at how stories can either reinforce or dismantle the gender stereotypes kids learn early on. The three lament the decline in leisure reading, and brainstorm ways to nurture new readers and keep students interested in books.
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Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: https://adamgrant.net/)
Shannon Hale (Instagram: @squeetus | Website: https://shannonhale.com/)
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Why books spark challenges: empathy as a “powerful tool”
SHShannon Hale
What is it about books? And I, I personally believe that it's because they are such pow- powerful tools of empathy. And what I see quite often is the majority of books that are challenged and banned are written by women and about female characters, are written and about LGBTQ characters, and are written by and about authors and characters of color. So there is a movement by some people to try to limit who
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Patterns in bans: women authors and marginalized protagonists disproportionately targeted
SHShannon Hale
their kids learn to empathize with. There is a power dynamic at play. When you can control the narrative, when you can control who gets to have stories told about them, who gets to be the hero, that has a real effect in our actual society and how things are governed and what people are gonna put up with and what they're not gonna put up with
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