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Improvisation as a life skill with Andrea Jones-Rooy and Justin Gregg

Adam joins an improv comedy workshop and comes away with new insights about facing failure, building resilience, boosting creativity, and elevating collaboration. He takes the stage in Authors@Wharton with a pair of past Re:Thinking guests, data scientist Andrea Jones-Rooy and animal cognition researcher Justin Gregg, who happen to moonlight as improv comedy performers. In this unique episode, Andrea and Justin throw Adam headfirst into a series of improv exercises and lead a lively, often hilarious discussion of the practical lessons. Follow our podcasts! ReThinking with Adam Grant: https://link.mgln.ai/kdYcyx The TED Podcasts is a collection of podcasts for the curious. The TED Podcasts videos may be used for non-commercial purposes under a Creative Commons License, Attribution–Non Commercial–No Derivatives (or the CC BY – NC – ND 4.0 International) and in accordance with our TED Talks Usage Policy (https://www.ted.com/about/our-organiz...). For more information on using TED for commercial purposes (e.g. employee learning, in a film or online course), please submit a Media Request at https://media-requests.ted.com.

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Aug 20, 202637mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Improv’s “yes, and” turns failure into teamwork and creativity

  1. Andrea Jones-Rooy and Justin Gregg argue that improvisation is not just comedy but a transferable life skill that improves listening, collaboration, and comfort with uncertainty.
  2. They break down core improv principles—especially “yes, and” and partner-support—to show how improvers rapidly build coherent scenes from nothing while making teammates look good.
  3. Through live onstage games with Adam Grant, they demonstrate how improv is funniest and most engaging when it’s imperfect, and how audience support differs from the antagonistic feel of stand-up.
  4. They connect improv to psychology concepts like flow states and divergent thinking, offering concrete exercises (character/voice shifts and A→C association drills) to reduce overthinking and increase creativity.
  5. They discuss how improv-like divergence and in-person human connection may become more valuable in an AI world, and they propose a practical model for group creativity: independent ideation, collaborative building, then idea selection.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Improv is a spectrum: short-form prompts vs. long-form, story-building performance.

They distinguish between short-form (prompt-to-joke formats like *Whose Line Is It Anyway?*) and long-form (30-minute, multi-scene shows built from a single suggestion). The point: improv isn’t just quick jokes—it’s sustained, collaborative sense-making under uncertainty.

“Yes, and” is a practical antidote to everyday idea-shutdown habits.

“Yes, and” (accept + add) is presented as the engine that turns nothing into something quickly. They contrast it with the common default of “no” (risk-aversion, idea-killing), using Andrea’s newsroom/corporate meeting experience as an example of how ‘no’ can stifle promising story and project directions.

Improv trains failure tolerance by making mistakes safe—and repeatable.

Justin describes improv as freeing because there’s no “correct order” of information to remember—unlike talks or lectures where being wrong is costly. His worst-ever show became a personal floor that reduced fear; repeated low-stakes embarrassment builds resilience that transfers to work and life.

Great improv is other-focused: your success comes from elevating your partners.

Andrea emphasizes that the real job in improv is to make your scene partner look good (“I got your back”), and that performers who chase spotlight laughs tend to be worse improvisers. They use Conan O’Brien as an example of a strong ‘scene partner’ who plays along to elevate others.

Improv works best when you reduce self-monitoring and enter a flow-like state.

Adam notices he “monitors” himself—trying to be funny *and* set others up—adding cognitive load. Justin connects improv to flow research (e.g., improvising musicians showing reduced self-monitoring activity), arguing that turning down metacognition improves spontaneity and performance.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

You can't get anything wrong in improv because nobody knows what you're going to say. It's completely freeing.

Justin Gregg

And I've l- I've learned to fail so often that I'm immune to it. I don't have an emotional reaction to it.

Justin Gregg

My only job besides agreeing with what you've said and building on it is my job is to make you look good and to make you look good.

Andrea Jones-Rooy

The people who, who do improv 'cause they think they're funny, and they wanna stand and shine in the spotlight and make jokes- ... are terrible improvisers.

Justin Gregg

Realize that nothing matters, and we're all on a rock that's gonna get eaten by the sun.

Andrea Jones-Rooy

Short-form vs. long-form improv“Yes, and” vs. “no” cultureFailure tolerance and resilienceMaking your partner look goodFlow states and reduced self-monitoringDivergent thinking (A→C associations)Group creativity: ideate alone, build together, select

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