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All Things Ketones, How to Boost Cognition, Sardine Fasting, Diet Rules, & More — Dr. Dom D’Agostino

Dr. Dominic D’Agostino is a tenured associate professor in the Department of Molecular Pharmacology and Physiology at the University of South Florida Morsani College of Medicine and a Visiting Senior Research Scientist at the Institute for Human and Machine Cognition. This episode is brought to you by: Momentous high-quality creatine: https://livemomentous.com/tim (code TIM for up to 35% off) Helix Sleep premium mattresses: https://HelixSleep.com/Tim (27% off all mattress orders) AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: https://DrinkAG1.com/Tim (1-year supply of Vitamin D plus 5 free AG1 travel packs) Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 900 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Follow the Tim Ferriss Podcast: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss Blog: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tferriss/ Follow Tim Ferriss on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/ Like Tim Ferriss on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/ [00:00] Start [00:42] Why I'm interested in ketogenic strategies for neurodegenerative prevention. [02:17] Mary and Steve Newport's ketone-linked temporary cognitive improvements. [04:31] A mechanisms overview for Alzheimer's/dementia. [07:45] The immune system as longevity's "fifth horseman" — and why metabolic control is key. [08:26] How to measure ketones and GKI. [09:26] Fasting vs. ketogenic diet. [10:48] There's nothing fishy about sardine fasting. [15:05] My hiatal hernia discovery and increased cancer risk concerns. [16:46] HSCRP as a superior biomarker to LDL for cardiovascular risk. [18:39] Glucose tolerance testing revelations and CGM importance. [24:12] Upgrading the metabolic machinery through keto without getting bored. [27:43] What do do if you, like Dom and me, are among the 30% who suffer from cholesterol hyperabsorption. [31:43] Dom's day-to-day diet regimen. [37:29] How Dom optimizes his aging dogs with ketones, SARMs, and supplements. [41:50] Supplementing for sleep disruption while fasting. [45:20] Why Dom doesn't have misgivings about melatonin. [46:09] Shingles prevention through fasting protocols. [46:32] Immune system modulation: Innate vs. adaptive, vegan vs. ketogenic. [50:15] Dom at 50-something: Current meal timing and composition. [53:35] Blue zone observations: Greek and Sardinian longevity habits. [54:39] Ketogenic diet initiation tips: MCT, electrolytes, and fasted cardio. [01:01:49] Ketone metabolic therapy for cancer. [01:04:54] The metabolic psychiatry revolution. [01:08:49] The soothing effects of hyperbaric oxygen and ketosis on seizure sufferers. [01:15:10] Metformin vs. berberine. [01:18:29] The low-dose neuroprotective potential of GLP-1 drugs. [01:21:44] NAD research: MIB-626 and stabilized forms for mitochondrial health. [01:26:38] Idebenone, CoQ10, and the Deanna protocol for ALS. [01:28:55] Dom's supplement short list: CoQ10, creatine, ketones, vitamin D, melatonin. [01:31:36] KetoNutrition.org, Metabolic Health Summit, Audacious Nutrition, veteran-focused research protocols, and other parting thoughts.

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Dom D’Agostino on ketosis, fasting strategies, biomarkers, brain, and immunity

  1. The discussion centers on how ketogenic diets, fasting variants, and exogenous ketones might be applied to brain health, including Alzheimer’s/dementia, with Dom D’Agostino emphasizing brain energy metabolism and neuroinflammation as key themes.
  2. Dom D’Agostino describes practical measurement and targeting of ketosis using glucose ketone index (GKI), notes common biases in home glucose meters, and underscores tracking broader cardiometabolic biomarkers such as HSCRP, insulin, and ApoB.
  3. He outlines “sardine fasting” as a fasting-mimicking approach he uses situationally and discusses why he prefers it over water-only fasting in certain contexts, including concerns about cancer cachexia.
  4. The conversation expands to metabolic psychiatry, cancer-related “ketone metabolic therapy,” and immune modulation, including the idea that ketogenic states may differentially affect innate versus adaptive immune activity.
  5. They cover concrete implementation details—meal timing, food choices, managing sleep disruption while fasting, and selective use of supplements—along with Dom’s cautious stance on rapamycin and nuanced views on wine consumption.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Raising ketones may produce noticeable, time-limited symptomatic changes in some dementia cases.

He described observing temporary, repeatable improvements in Steve Newport’s tremors and animation after coconut oil/MCT oil doses that raised ketones (roughly into the 1–2 mmol range), with effects waning after a few hours and returning with another dose.

He sees brain energy metabolism and immune/inflammation drivers as central to Alzheimer’s.

He framed Alzheimer’s/dementia as involving glucose hypometabolism plus multiple contributing factors (transporters, PDH activity, vascular issues, and inflammation), and said accumulating evidence suggests infections may contribute in some cases, linking this to immune-system involvement.

He emphasizes measuring ketosis with practical tools (GKI) while accounting for device bias.

He said he prefers Keto-Mojo for recommending to individuals because it calculates glucose ketone index (GKI) and, in his group’s comparisons, readouts aligned better with their lab assays than other approaches; he also noted consumer glucose meters can trend high versus lab draws.

He favors fasting-mimicking strategies that maintain nutrition, especially for cancer-related contexts.

He described “sardine fasting” (e.g., about a can/day) as a fasting-mimicking approach he uses situationally and encouraged in certain contexts; he tied its rationale to creating a caloric deficit while maintaining nutrition (especially omega-3s) and supporting favorable signaling (lower insulin/mTOR, higher AMPK) and GKI targets over several days.

He prioritizes inflammation and broader metabolic biomarkers over LDL alone when assessing risk.

He said HSCRP is a better indicator of cardiovascular disease risk than LDL cholesterol and highlighted tracking a broader cardiometabolic panel (insulin, A1C, triglycerides, ApoB, Lp(a), etc.), especially when interpreting ketogenic approaches.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I think the fifth horseman is really the immune system.

— Dr. Dominic D’Agostino

I like to do what I call, I mean, I kinda coined it, it's like sardine fasting.

— Dr. Dominic D’Agostino

I'd like to draw attention to that real quick because HSCRP is a better indicator of cardiovascular disease than LDL cholesterol.

— Dr. Dominic D’Agostino

I think the beauty of ketogenic therapies is that it's pleiotropic, right? So which means it's many mechanisms working in synergy.

— Dr. Dominic D’Agostino

I take melatonin not to sleep, but as a neuroprotective agent that has a whole host of beneficial effects for the brain, also Alzheimer's disease, also cancer, especially breast cancer.

— Dr. Dominic D’Agostino

Ketogenic strategies for dementia/Alzheimer’sBrain glucose hypometabolism, transporters, PDH, inflammationInfection hypotheses and immune-system involvementKetone measurement: Keto-Mojo, Precision Xtra, GKIFasting vs ketogenic diet vs exogenous ketonesSardine fasting and fasting-mimicking logicHSCRP and broader cardiometabolic biomarker tracking (A1C, insulin, ApoB)

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