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Books I’ve Loved — Ann Miura Ko | The Tim Ferriss Show

Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is my job to sit down with world-class performers of all different types—from startup founders and investors to chess champions to Olympic athletes.

Tim FerrisshostAnn Miura-Koguest
Jul 21, 202026mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Ann Miura-Ko’s three life-shaping books on meaning, morality, and story

  1. Tim Ferriss introduces a short-form “Books I’ve Loved” episode and frames it as an experiment where guests share influential books and why they mattered.
  2. Ann Miura-Ko recommends How Will You Measure Your Life? and summarizes lessons she drew from it about emergent versus deliberate life strategy, relationship “jobs to be done,” and helping children learn through difficult experiences.
  3. She recommends the novel The Dovekeepers, describing its fictionalized Masada story and how it compelled her to plan a visit to the site with her family.
  4. She recommends The Righteous Mind and explains how its ideas about moral psychology, “WEIRD” cultural outliers, and multiple moral foundations helped her understand disagreement and become more empathetic to differing views.
  5. Tim closes by promoting his weekly “5-Bullet Friday” email as a short roundup of things he found interesting that week.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Balancing what emerges with what you deliberately plan can clarify past and future life decisions.

Ann Miura-Ko describes how Clayton Christensen’s idea of balancing “emergent” (unplanned) versus “deliberate” (planned) strategies can apply to careers and life choices, including decisions that don’t look logical to others in the moment.

Choosing who you work with can be a reliable decision rule, even when the path looks non-linear.

She says she often chose jobs based on the quality of the person she would work with—sometimes aligned with her plan, sometimes not—and found it consistently worked out when that person was a strong source of learning and inspiration.

Asking “what job does this person need me to do?” can shift relationships from reactive to needs-based support.

Using Christensen’s “jobs to be done” concept, she reframes relationships as asking what role others need you to play—particularly as a parent—and notes she tries to reflect on this each morning rather than acting only from what she wants to do.

Letting children navigate difficult tasks can build capability and confidence for both child and parent.

She recounts having her 12-year-old build and execute a plan to drop an unhappy class and replace it with alternatives, highlighting Christensen’s “school of experience” idea: kids develop by doing hard things themselves.

A powerful novel can shape real-world curiosity and even travel plans through emotional immersion.

Ann says The Dovekeepers drew her in through a fictionalized account of Masada, centered on one of the rumored survivors, and it was compelling enough to inspire a family trip to Israel with Masada as a must-see stop.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I took almost all of my jobs, actually, not because of some predestined plan but because I really thought that the person I was gonna work with was incredible.

— Ann Miura-Ko

But every time I took those steps, and even when I couldn't explain it from a logical standpoint to anyone else, if I knew that the person that I was working for was going to be a huge source of inspiration, someone I could learn from, it was always the right decision.

— Ann Miura-Ko

Sometimes I've learned it's really important to follow your gut.

— Ann Miura-Ko

And when I wake up in the morning, I, I sit, and I, I think about the most important people in my life.

— Ann Miura-Ko

She had done all of this on her own at the age of 12.

— Ann Miura-Ko

Read the available transcript
“Books I’ve Loved” short-form formatHow Will You Measure Your Life? (career and personal balance)Emergent vs. deliberate strategy applied to life“Jobs to be done” applied to relationshipsParenting and the “school of experience”The Dovekeepers and Masada-inspired travelThe Righteous Mind: morality, WEIRD framing, moral foundations

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SPEAKERS

  • Tim Ferriss

    host

    Author and podcaster who hosts The Tim Ferriss Show.

  • Ann Miura-Ko

    guest

    Co-founding partner at Floodgate, a seed-stage venture capital firm in Palo Alto, California.

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