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Tim FerrissKevin Systrom — Tactics, Books, and the Path to a Billion Users | The Tim Ferriss Show
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Kevin Systrom on Simplicity, Feedback, Pivots, Books, and Following Your Passion
- Systrom recommends books such as Principles, The Lean Startup, How to Read a Book, The Goal, and Lessons of History, and explains how he picks nonfiction books to learn specific skills.
- He champions doing the simple thing first, illustrating it with a server-sharding story and with how Instagram emerged by cutting every Burbn feature except photos and then adding filters.
- He argues that most successful companies are pivots and that the key is quickly recognizing failure, which depends on actively seeking honest feedback and trying to prove yourself wrong.
- On leadership, he describes hiring people far better than himself, managing vision rather than day-to-day tasks, and using The Goal's bottleneck idea to batch product decisions.
- He shares how he handled being counted out after the 2012 sale, and he advises entrepreneurs to solve a real problem, avoid going it alone, and love the outcome they are shooting for.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasDo the simple thing first
Systrom says Instagram spent four months on a fancy auto-sharding database before Mike wrote a simple even/odd user ID file in two hours that just worked. He sees complexity as no measure of good management.
Instagram emerged by subtraction
After Burbn stalled, they listed what exists and what sucks, cut every feature except photo sharing, and later added filters after his wife said her photos weren't good enough to share.
Most successful companies are pivots
Systrom says it is hard to know what works in advance, so entrepreneurs should fail quickly, diagnose why, and improve. Those who cling to ideas out of ego tend to do poorly.
Honest feedback must be actively sought
He notes that people are wired to avoid conflict and that the higher you rise, the less feedback you get. He suggests asking for it, thanking people rather than getting defensive, and sorting real merit from mere dislike.
Hire people better than you
Systrom hired people with far more experience than himself and managed by setting vision and direction while asking them how to get there. He says that if everyone hired up, you'd have a remarkable company.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesI think a big part of knowing that you're right is working as hard as you can to prove that you're wrong, and if you can't, well, there's only one option left, which is you're probably right.
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Always do the simple thing first. And it's amazing to me how many people think the quality of their management, they think is judged based on the complexity of their decisions or the outcomes, and it turns out, actually the right thing to do is sometimes the simplest, and it's the most effective.
— Kevin Systrom
There is no Midas touch. Like, the... One of the things I hated most working in tech was the idea that there's, like, a product guy or a product girl, right? Like, that you're, like, somehow someone who just knows what's gonna work. Most of the successful people I know have tons of bad ideas, and it's about editing them out
— Kevin Systrom
if everyone hired up, you'd have like the most badass company in the world.
— Kevin Systrom
You should love what you're shooting for. 'Cause work is hard. It can be miserable at times. I mean, nothing great in this world ever came easy.
— Kevin Systrom
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