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Neil Gaiman — The Interview I've Waited 20 Years To Do

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Tim FerrisshostNeil Gaimanguest
Mar 28, 20191h 37mWatch on YouTube ↗

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Neil Gaiman on writing rules, tools, routines, and collaboration

  1. Neil Gaiman explains his core writing rule: when he sits down to work, he may either write or do nothing, but he may not do anything else, so boredom eventually pushes him into writing.
  2. He describes a process of drafting longhand in fountain pen and notebook, then editing while typing the material into a computer, which makes cutting feel like saving work rather than losing it.
  3. He discusses how routines and environment shape output, including using repeated “Groundhog Day” days for novels and recognizing that his preferred writing hours have changed over his life.
  4. He tells the long-gestation origin story of The Graveyard Book, from his son riding a tricycle in a graveyard to finally finding the book’s voice years later by starting in the middle and reading pages to his daughter.
  5. He recounts his friendship and collaboration with Terry Pratchett, the intense creation of Good Omens, and the emotional and practical complexities of adapting it after Pratchett’s death while aiming to make something he would be proud of.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Make writing the only “interesting” option by limiting alternatives.

He described sitting in his garden gazebo with a strict constraint: he may either write or do nothing, but he may not do anything else (no reading, calls, crosswords, etc.). The boredom of doing nothing eventually makes writing the more interesting option, and it also helps manage distractibility (including family distractions).

Separate drafting from editing by changing mediums and treating transcription as revision.

He often drafts long work in fountain pen in notebooks, then treats typing it into the computer as the second draft and primary editing pass. He prefers this because leaving out weak material while typing feels like “saving work,” whereas deleting on a computer feels like losing work.

Use tools that both increase enjoyment and reduce the emotional weight of the work.

He uses at least two fountain pens with different ink colors so he can see at a glance how much he wrote in a day. He also likes fountain pens and inks because they make the act pleasurable while simultaneously helping him keep the work from feeling too “freighted” or psychologically heavy.

For novels, consistency of routine can matter more than heroic bursts of effort.

He said writing novels works best when he can repeat the same day over and over—his “Groundhog Day” approach—using consistent routines and locations to keep momentum. He also emphasized noticing when your working style changes over time (late-night to afternoon, possibly to morning later in life).

Small, repeatable increments can finish a book when “finding time” isn’t possible.

He explained that Coraline progressed through tiny nightly increments—writing a few lines before bed instead of reading—until it accumulated into real progress. A missing notebook on a cruise also pushed him to write more of Coraline, showing how constraints and circumstance can redirect productivity.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I- I-- all I'm allowed to do is absolutely nothing or write.

— Neil Gaiman

I'm giving myself permission to write or not write. But writing is actually more interesting than doing nothing after a while.

— Neil Gaiman

Anything that happens in your first draft is you telling the story to yourself. And then I'll sit down and type, and I'll put it onto a computer. And as far as I'm concerned, the second draft is where I try and make it look like I knew what I was doing all along.

— Neil Gaiman

What you cannot fix is, is the perfection of a blank page.

— Neil Gaiman

Part of what I discovered particularly about being a novelist is writing a novel works best if you can do the same day over and over again.

— Neil Gaiman

Read the available transcript
Early journalism lesson: failed tape recording and redundancyWork/home separation and writing in hotels“Write or do nothing” rule and distraction managementFountain pens, inks, and notebooksHandwriting first drafts and editing while typingComputer-era expansion and the difficulty of choosingRoutines for novel-writing and shifting work hours over time (late-night to afternoon)

SPEAKERS

  • Tim Ferriss

    host

    Entrepreneur, author, and podcast host of The Tim Ferriss Show.

  • Neil Gaiman

    guest

    Bestselling author and screenwriter known for works including American Gods, Coraline, and co-writing Good Omens.

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