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Tim FerrissRandom Show — Fasting, Biohacking, and Tony Robbins | The Tim Ferriss Show (Podcast)
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Tim Ferriss and Kevin Rose on Fasting, Minimalism, Drinking, Learning, Tony Robbins
- Kevin Rose describes doing three back-to-back five-day fast mimicking diets, which he says dramatically improved his cholesterol numbers, and compares the Longo-based ProLon kit with Peter Attia's lower-carb, higher-fat version.
- Since becoming a father to four-month-old Zelda, Kevin has pursued minimalism by donating or throwing away one item daily, and both men discuss tactical takes on Marie Kondo's ideas.
- They swap strategies for drinking less, including a group spreadsheet experiment, a wine measuring cup, sauna sessions, arriving late to parties, and ordering club soda.
- They discuss learning methods such as the Coursera course Learning How to Learn, spaced study before bed with recall on waking, and skepticism about claims on exercise and memory.
- Both describe getting real value from Tony Robbins events, with Kevin's wheel of life exercise and Tim's Dickens process as highlights, and Tim defends the self-help genre while advising readers to spot bad science.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasThe fast mimicking diet is more sustainable than a water-only fast.
Kevin says about 700 calories a day of soups and crackers keeps the body in a fasted state with less hunger and more energy, so compliance is higher than with the brutal water-only fasts both men have tried.
Kevin saw cholesterol improvements after repeated FMD cycles.
After three monthly five-day fasts, Kevin reports a dramatic drop in cholesterol numbers without long-term dietary changes, and he plans to continue quarterly while hoping to eventually come off statins.
Small daily actions beat big overhauls for decluttering.
Kevin donates or discards one item per day, borrowing from Marie Kondo the idea that an item has already taught its lesson, and Tim prefers this to her all-at-once approach.
Social accountability and friction can curb drinking.
Kevin's group spreadsheet created pressure to drink less once it capped reporting at 'two plus,' and he also uses a measuring cup, saunas, and late arrivals to parties, while Tim uses club soda and the excuse of being on weird drugs.
Supplements should not replace fixing basic habits.
Tim says he now uses supplements as supplements, noting that poor diet, drinking and lack of exercise create so much noise that you can't know your baseline, and that both men are not doctors and listeners should consult professionals.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesIf you're drinking a lot and you're, like, compulsively watching porn and not exercising and, like, mainlining Pixy Stix for your diet and you're like, "Wow, I'm depressed. Maybe I should take 15 different supplements," it's like, no, you need to fucking fix the rest of your life.
— Tim Ferriss
I think that it's really easy to become addicted to measuring things that don't matter very much.
— Tim Ferriss
I think that this whole genre, like the self-help genre, is becoming... it's really just this idea that we're all on a journey of lifelong learning, and we all are done BS-ing ourselves, and there's not a single person that has all of life figured out, so why don't we all actively, openly work on this together?
— Kevin Rose
The least amount of burden and the most happiness you can get is like having less stuff to worry about.
— Kevin Rose
You never really strengthen that muscle, like, if you're leaning on the crutch of alcohol. So you're never gonna become more comfortable with new humans and new interactions if you always just go to the booze, right?
— Kevin Rose
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