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Seth Godin on Choosing Your Attitude and Overcoming Rejection

Brought to you by Shopify global commerce platform providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business http://shopify.com/tim Resources from this episode: https://tim.blog/2023/05/17/seth-godin-2/ Seth Godin is the author of 21 international bestsellers that have changed the way people think about work. His books have been translated into 38 languages and Seth’s books include Tribes, Purple Cow, Linchpin, The Dip, and This Is Marketing. Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world, and two of his TED talks are among the most popular of all time. He is the founder of the altMBA; the social media pioneer Squidoo; and Yoyodyne, one of the first internet companies. His new book is The Song of Significance: A New Manifesto for Teams (https://www.amazon.com/Song-Significance-New-Manifesto-Teams/dp/0593715543/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20) Please enjoy! [00:00] Start [06:17] The changes of aging. [10:07] How Seth gets over momentary lapses of optimism. [08:24] Viktor Frankl [12:26] The Carbon Almanac. [15:01] Addressing 21st-century nihilism. [22:51] Finding significance and making a difference. [30:53] The boss and the bees. [40:29] Ethically reclaiming meaning from work in the Quaker surveillance state. [47:47] Seth’s impression of my efforts over the years. [52:36] Circumnavigating false proxies. [58:44] Employee retention. [1:02:30] Let’s Get Real or Let’s Not Play. [1:04:30] Zig Ziglar. [1:09:08] Seth’s early career life. [1:10:44] Seth’s current career life. [1:14:07] The 140-year-old piano. [1:16:50] Meetings. [1:21:18] Page 19 thinking. [1:25:13] Soliciting useful writing feedback. [1:29:19] Parting thoughts. Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 900 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Follow the Tim Ferriss Podcast: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss Blog: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tferriss/ Follow Tim Ferriss on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/ Like Tim Ferriss on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/

Tim FerrisshostSeth Godinguest
May 17, 20231h 31mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Seth Godin on meaning, significance, and choosing your attitude daily

  1. Seth Godin reframes aging as an ongoing adaptation process—walking away from what no longer fits while finding satisfaction in what remains possible.
  2. He argues that people can choose their attitude in response to events, and he connects this to Viktor Frankl’s focus on meaning as a pathway to hope.
  3. He describes The Carbon Almanac as a large-scale, volunteer-built project that created community and significance through shared purpose rather than money.
  4. He critiques modern work systems that rely on surveillance, isolation, and false proxies, saying they drain meaning and contribute to a broader “meaning shortage.”
  5. He offers practical frameworks—organizing with others, evaluating people by real work instead of proxies, avoiding meetings in favor of conversations, and “Page 19 thinking”—to build cultures where people feel significant.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Aging can be met by deliberately trading old identities for new ways to keep participating.

He describes repeatedly shifting to new modes (e.g., switching skiing styles) rather than fixating on what he can no longer do, framing the present as a “gift” and focusing on current capabilities instead of loss.

Choosing your attitude is a core lever for navigating setbacks and uncertainty.

He says the world will be whatever it is, and that “we get to pick our attitude,” which he frames as the only real choice we always retain—how to process what happens next.

Meaning and hope are presented as antidotes to cultural despair and consumer-driven emptiness.

He credits Viktor Frankl’s meaning-centered perspective: once someone finds meaning—a path forward that creates hope—many aspects of life improve; he contrasts this with consumerist attempts to manufacture meaning through purchases or social validation.

Shared mission and enrollment can create community, momentum, and personal significance without financial incentives.

He describes organizing a global volunteer effort to create a heavily researched, footnoted book quickly, and emphasizes that the shared purpose—and not money—was what generated connection, solace, and engagement.

Collective organizing is framed as both more effective and more psychologically sustaining than isolated individual optimization.

He argues individual “carbon footprint” behavior is an insufficient frame for privileged individuals to “fix the climate,” and that organizing locally (even small groups) can create larger impact while also generating meaning and optimism.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We get to pick our attitude, and in fact, it's the only thing each of us truly gets to pick.

— Seth Godin

Instead of focusing on what I used to have, I'm really working hard and getting satisfaction out of focusing on what I do have, what I can do, and that just raises the stakes for things.

— Seth Godin

We don't have a profit shortage, we have a meaning shortage.

— Seth Godin

Where does significance come from? It comes from making a change happen.

— Seth Godin

There are false proxies in our life, and they're expensive. They get in the way of our output, and they also steal our soul, and they denature our culture.

— Seth Godin

Aging and identity shiftsChoosing attitude and optimismViktor Frankl and meaningThe Carbon Almanac volunteer collaborationNihilism and a “meaning shortage”Organizing vs individual action (carbon footprint critique)Workplace surveillance and trust

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