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The Random Show — Biohacking, Tim’s COVID Experience, Holiday Gift Ideas, Favorite Apps, and More

Technologist, serial entrepreneur, world-class investor, self-experimenter, and all-around wild and crazy guy Kevin Rose (@KevinRose) rejoins me for another episode of The Random Show.

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Nov 24, 20212h 1mWatch on YouTube

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  1. Disclaimers, show kickoff, and reuniting in person

    Tim Ferriss opens with extended medical and investment disclaimers, then welcomes Kevin Rose back for another installment of The Random Show. They banter about finally hanging out in person again after a long gap.

    • •Tim emphasizes they are not providing medical, therapeutic, or investment advice
    • •Tim introduces the episode and welcomes Kevin Rose
    • •They joke about how long it has been since they spent real in-person time together
    • •Light, comedic tone set for a wide-ranging episode
  2. Marfa trip recap: Art Blocks event and early-SXSW vibes

    Kevin explains why they traveled to Marfa, Texas: an Art Blocks gathering centered on generative art NFTs. Tim compares the atmosphere to early South by Southwest, and they preview the episode’s broader agenda beyond NFTs.

    • •Kevin describes Marfa as remote and the trip as an Art Blocks conference/event
    • •Explanation of generative art NFTs: artists write code; minters receive a randomized output
    • •Tim compares the feel to early SXSW Interactive, with “seeds of something bigger”
    • •Tim notes they’ll also cover COVID, tools, biohacks, and holiday gift ideas
  3. What they’re drinking: sotol, mezcal, tequila, and event free-pours

    They revive the tradition of sharing what they’re drinking and riff on spirits they discovered in Marfa. Tim describes sotol and his mezcal, while Kevin opts for champagne; they also discuss pricey tequila being poured generously at an event.

    • •Tim explains sotol’s flavor profile and mentions Marfa Spirit Co.
    • •Tim shares he’s drinking an artisanal mezcal and mentions a tequila he likes (LALO)
    • •Kevin shares he’s drinking Billecart rosé champagne and why he likes champagne
    • •They recount the Chinati-related event with Casa Dragones pours and joke about the food-to-drink value mismatch
  4. Kevin’s biohacking: rapamycin, the Dog Aging Project, and Toaster’s energy boost

    Kevin outlines his experimentation with low-dose rapamycin and connects it to research efforts like the Dog Aging Project. He describes perceived benefits for his dog Toaster and explains how some people pursue vet-supervised off-label use.

    • •Kevin summarizes rapamycin’s standard use and interest in lower-dose aging-related studies
    • •He mentions supporting the DogAgingProject and hopes it translates to humans
    • •Kevin reports subjective changes: his knee pain improved during his cycle
    • •Kevin describes noticeable energy/behavior changes in Toaster after vet-supervised dosing and points listeners to the Dog Aging Project site
  5. More experiments: Ozempic for glucose control, plus saffron gummies and mood chews

    Kevin shifts to Ozempic as a tool for his glucose control concerns and family cardiovascular history, including side effects and dosing ramp-up. He then shares lighter “mood” experiments involving saffron gummies and Zach Williams’ PYM mood chews, prompting Tim to discuss ingredient simplicity and L-theanine.

    • •Kevin explains why he started Ozempic, how the injections work, and the gradual dosing ramp
    • •He notes side effects like nausea and discusses why the drug interests him beyond glucose
    • •Kevin shares an article-inspired interest in saffron and mentions OLLY “Happy Gummy Worms”
    • •Kevin describes PYM mood chews (GABA, L-theanine, rhodiola) and says his wife found them helpful; Tim discusses why simpler formulations are easier to evaluate
  6. COVID advice overload, isolation viewing, and feel-good TV recommendations

    Tim jokes about the absurd range of advice people gave him and warns about contraindications. He shares how isolation led him to binge Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, while Kevin strongly recommends Ted Lasso; Tim also mentions watching Schitt’s Creek.

    • •Tim describes being inundated with conflicting remedies and the risk of stacking interventions
    • •He recommends Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee as psychologically helpful during isolation
    • •Kevin urges Tim to watch Ted Lasso as an “ultimate feel-good” show
    • •Tim notes Schitt’s Creek as their current shorter-format viewing choice
  7. NFT utilities: wine-club memberships, resale mechanics, and smart-contract royalties

    Kevin argues the future of NFTs is utility rather than images, using a wine-club membership example. Tim presses on what’s genuinely new versus traditional memberships, and Kevin explains resale, price discovery, and ongoing royalties to producers.

    • •Kevin frames NFTs as membership/ownership utilities rather than just art images
    • •Tim asks what differentiates NFT memberships from existing wine clubs or private clubs
    • •Kevin explains scarcity and tradable access, using ultra-waitlisted wine allocations as an example
    • •Kevin describes smart-contract royalties where a percentage of secondary sales can go back to the producer
  8. Kevin’s Proof NFT: membership perks, resale, and why he’s building in Web3

    Kevin announces a limited set of utility NFTs for his Proof podcast audience, offering perks like early access and a private Discord, with more planned benefits he avoids promising explicitly. Tim questions the motivation and sustainability of creator commitments, and Kevin explains his excitement and builder mindset.

    • •Kevin outlines Proof NFT utilities: early podcast access, private community, and additional perks
    • •They discuss how NFTs can be resold, transferring perks to the new holder
    • •Tim probes why Kevin is doing this and what he personally gets out of it
    • •Kevin compares his Web3 excitement to the early days of building on the web and describes waking up energized by the space
  9. Marfa braintrust: DAOs explained and the “DilDAO” domain idea

    They define DAOs and recount late-night Marfa brainstorming fueled by excitement and alcohol. Tim shares the “DilDAO” concept as a fan DAO for Dilbert and describes texting Scott Adams to buy related domains.

    • •Kevin defines a DAO as a decentralized autonomous organization and gives examples
    • •They describe the proliferation of DAOs and how flexible the structure can be
    • •Tim shares the “DilDAO” idea and his text message exchange with Scott Adams
    • •They connect the creative frenzy to the broader Web3 momentum they felt in Marfa
  10. Tim’s crypto-for-good update: Saisei Foundation donations via Endowment

    Tim explains his first practical use of crypto infrastructure for philanthropy: enabling crypto donations to Saisei Foundation through Endowment. He describes Saisei’s focus and why the foundation’s name reflects the “rebirth” some people report after psychedelic-assisted therapy.

    • •Tim introduces Endowment as a way for nonprofits to accept cryptocurrency donations
    • •He shares Saisei Foundation’s donation link setup and where listeners can find it
    • •Tim explains the meaning of “Saisei” and why it fits the foundation’s mission
    • •Kevin reacts positively to making donations as simple as connecting a wallet
  11. Psychedelic policy momentum and ketamine-at-home (Mindbloom) perspective

    Tim recounts attending a veterans-focused event where political opposites agreed on psychedelic medicine’s value for PTSD. Kevin asks about at-home ketamine therapy through Mindbloom, and Tim shares that he began skeptical but has heard strong endorsements from experienced facilitators and speaks positively about the company and CEO.

    • •Tim describes a veterans benefit event and bipartisan agreement on psychedelic-assisted therapy for PTSD
    • •He notes how quickly the field has shifted after a long “winter” in research and policy
    • •Kevin asks about Mindbloom’s mailed ketamine model paired with remote support
    • •Tim says he’s heard only positive feedback from credible practitioners and mentions his own IV ketamine experience to understand effects and side effects
  12. Tim’s COVID timeline: likely exposure, rapid tests, and decision-making under uncertainty

    Tim walks through how he believes he contracted COVID, describing a crowded van ride after an F1 event and symptoms that followed. He explains testing, entering “action mode,” and the challenge of evaluating interventions amid contradictory input.

    • •Tim recounts likely exposure during crowded post-event transportation and subsequent symptoms
    • •He describes taking rapid antigen tests that turned positive quickly and scheduling PCR confirmation
    • •Tim explains why he sought high confidence before taking medications, due to side effects and interactions
    • •He describes consulting multiple preexisting doctors and how lack of consensus complicated choices
  13. Treatment choices and recovery: monoclonal antibodies, fluvoxamine, lingering effects, and vaccine framing

    Tim details choosing monoclonal antibody treatment and fluvoxamine, while emphasizing this is not medical advice and depends on individual circumstances and doctors. He describes the most troubling symptoms (respiratory distress), post-acute fatigue, and cognitive effects, and clarifies his expectations of vaccination as reducing severity rather than preventing infection.

    • •Tim describes booking monoclonal antibodies via a service and outlines differing doctor recommendations
    • •He explains his decision to take fluvoxamine and discusses the difficulty of attributing effects while tapering
    • •Tim reports respiratory tightness as the most alarming symptom and notes fatigue and elevated heart rate during early exercise
    • •He addresses polarized reactions to his vaccination status and reiterates he viewed vaccination as reducing severe outcomes and long-haul risk
  14. Holiday gift ideas, favorite tools, and a quick wrap-up

    They pivot to holiday gift recommendations and practical tools, moving quickly through favorites. Kevin suggests adult LEGO sets, knives, the Oura Ring, stone-paper notebooks, and Maui Nui venison products; Tim points to his own gift guide and they end with budgeting/net-worth app picks before signing off.

    • •Kevin recommends adult LEGO sets (including a Ghostbusters Ecto-1 build) and Benchmade knives
    • •They mention additional knife sources and experiences, including a knife maker Tim recommends
    • •Kevin recommends Oura Ring and Karst stone-paper notebooks; both praise Maui Nui venison snacks
    • •Tim shares a link to his gift guide; Kevin recommends Kubera, Copilot, and revisiting Mint, and they briefly mention YNAB’s devoted following before closing

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