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The Random Show — Biohacking, Tim’s COVID Experience, Holiday Gift Ideas, Favorite Apps, and More

Technologist, serial entrepreneur, world-class investor, self-experimenter, and all-around wild and crazy guy Kevin Rose (@KevinRose) rejoins me for another episode of The Random Show.

Tim FerrisshostKevin Roseguest
Nov 24, 20212h 1mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Ferriss and Rose swap biohacks, utility NFTs, and COVID lessons

  1. Tim Ferriss and Kevin Rose open with extensive disclaimers and then reflect on a Marfa, Texas trip centered on Art Blocks and the feel of an early-stage, fast-growing tech/art scene.
  2. They discuss biohacking experiments and products, including Kevin’s experience with rapamycin (for himself and his dog via vet guidance), Ozempic for glucose control, and mood-related supplements like saffron gummies and PYM chews.
  3. Kevin lays out a thesis that NFTs are evolving into utility-based memberships and redemption mechanisms for real-world goods, and he announces a 1,000-unit Proof podcast utility NFT with perks like early access and a private Discord.
  4. Tim describes his first COVID infection, his suspected exposure at F1 transportation, his testing process, and his decision-making around interventions like monoclonal antibodies and fluvoxamine amid differing doctor recommendations.
  5. They close with practical recommendations including entertainment picks, holiday gift ideas (e.g., adult LEGO sets, knives, Oura ring, Karst notebooks, Maui Nui venison), and finance/budgeting apps like Kubera, Copilot, Mint, and YNAB.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

They repeatedly frame the episode as informational and not professional advice.

Tim opens by emphasizing that neither he nor Kevin are doctors/therapists and they are not providing medical or investment advice, urging listeners to seek professional guidance and be safe.

They use the Marfa trip to explain how generative NFTs work and why they felt “early-SXSW” momentum.

Kevin describes attending an Art Blocks kickoff event in Marfa, Texas, explaining Art Blocks as an NFT generative art platform where artists write code that produces randomized outputs when minted.

Kevin experiments with rapamycin for himself and his dog, but repeatedly caveats uncertainty and the need for vet/doctor involvement.

Kevin says he ran an eight-week cycle of rapamycin (noting it’s used at higher doses for immune suppression in transplant patients), reporting his knee pain went away but acknowledging it’s an N=1 and not placebo-controlled. He also says his 11-year-old dog Toaster is on rapamycin dosing aligned with the Dog Aging Project guidance under vet supervision and reports noticeable increases in energy and jumping.

Kevin frames Ozempic as both a glucose-control tool and a cardiovascular-risk/weight-loss-related experiment, while noting side effects.

Kevin says he started Ozempic due to poor glucose disposal and mentions it’s a subcutaneous injection with a ramping dosing approach, describing nausea as a potential side effect. He also cites reductions in non-fatal stroke and major cardiac events as part of his motivation, given his family history, and notes weight loss as a common side effect.

They highlight “mood” supplements and prefer simpler ingredient stacks over large proprietary blends.

Kevin shares mood-related products he’s tried: OLLY “Happy Gummy Worms” with saffron (inspired by an Atlantic article he references) and Zach Williams’ PYM mood chews containing GABA, L-theanine, and rhodiola. Tim adds he likes simpler formulations and notes L-theanine can help take the edge off caffeine and rhodiola is interesting for endurance.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Please be smart, not stupid, and be safe and get professional advice on all things we discuss.

— Tim Ferriss

Two is one and one is none.

— Tim Ferriss

I'm not convinced that that would've been the case otherwise.

— Tim Ferriss

I'm not joking, Tim, like there is a absolute difference. Absolute difference.

— Kevin Rose

I really, really, really applaud Jerry Seinfeld for first and foremost designing a format for himself that is the most, the most fun and ease he could possibly have in putting together a show.

— Tim Ferriss

Read the available transcript
Disclaimers (medical and investment)Marfa trip and Art Blocks generative NFTsRapamycin and Dog Aging Project dosing discussionOzempic for glucose control and side effectsSaffron gummies and PYM mood chews ingredientsNFT utilities: memberships, resale, royalties, redemptionTim’s COVID timeline, interventions, and lingering effects

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  • Tim Ferriss

    host

    Author and podcaster, host of The Tim Ferriss Show and The Random Show.

  • Kevin Rose

    guest

    Entrepreneur and investor, recurring co-host/guest on The Random Show with Tim Ferriss.

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