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The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck — Mark Manson on Writing, Career Reinvention, and More

Brought to you by AG1 all-in-one supplement https://drinkag1.com/tim and Eight Sleep’s Pod Cover sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating https://eightsleep.com/Tim Show notes: https://tim.blog/2022/12/30/mark-manson/ Mark Manson (@IAmMarkManson) is a three-time #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck as well as other titles. His books have sold nearly 20 million copies worldwide and have reached number one in more than a dozen countries. Since 2008, he has written articles at MarkManson.net, one of the largest personal-development blogs in the world, with more than a million monthly readers. In 2023, a feature film about him and his work will be released in theaters by Universal Pictures. See https://SubtleArtMovie.com for more details, and click here for the trailer. Please enjoy! 00:00 Start 01:13 Difficult changes and modified default behaviors. 04:52 Be careful what you wish for. 06:59 How Mark’s feature film deal came to be. 11:00 The teamwork that makes Mark’s dream work. 16:04 Sourcing talent. 20:56 How Mark knew he’d found the right agent. 24:58 From Entropy to F*ckery. 42:59 Learning the subtle art of strategic F-bombing. 52:41 Prioritizing health maintenance. 1:00:38 Co-authoring a book with Will Smith. 1:08:21 In a post-slap world, what should we know about the real Will Smith? 1:13:55 How Will Smith depends on and interacts with his team. 1:16:13 Setting the course for the next few years. 1:20:47 How Mark says no to financially tempting projects he doesn’t want to do. 1:29:12 The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck‘s cover story. 1:32:12 Why Mark is pivoting to video production rather than podcasting. 1:36:28 What can we expect from Mark’s future video trajectory? 1:42:15 Staying relevant and creatively fulfilled in a crowded market. 1:44:23 The software Mark uses to compose a book. 1:45:36 Recommended reading, 1:56:54 Parting thoughts. About Tim Ferriss: Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 800 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Connect with Tim Ferriss: Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Visit the Tim Ferriss PODCAST: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss BLOG: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/tferriss/ Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/ Like Tim Ferriss on FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/

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Dec 31, 20222h 1mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Mark Manson on success whiplash, teams, and pivoting back online

  1. Mark Manson describes the emotional whiplash of rapid breakout success, including emptiness after achieving goals too quickly, imposter syndrome, and learning that money and status can introduce new headaches.
  2. He explains how his film deal emerged largely from inbound offers after the book’s success, and outlines a lean team structure built around in-house roles and a CAA agent who enables cross-media opportunities.
  3. He walks through his decade-plus “sticky ball” trajectory—from an early pseudonymous dating blog and SEO experiments to rebranding toward healthier relationship advice and eventually broader personal development writing.
  4. Manson details practical operating principles: hiring from his own audience, using application standards and test tasks, and setting firm rules to say no—especially for speaking and high-distraction projects.
  5. He discusses recent priorities and future direction: recovering health habits after overwork, and returning “to the internet” by building a video team to reach younger audiences and explore more implementation-focused content.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Success can create a “now what?” void when long-term dreams get achieved all at once.

After his book hit #1 and sold millions quickly, he described feeling empty, depressed, and unsure what to aim for next—alongside imposter syndrome and anxiety about whether he’d ever do something as meaningful again.

The “mainstream recognition” many creators want can be less satisfying than the independence they started with.

He said he craved the validation of magazines and newspapers, but once he started working with legacy media he found it bureaucratic and frustrating compared to the directness of blogging and reader feedback.

Mark optimizes his team for long-term trust and execution, not short-term savings.

He described choosing full-time, in-house hires because he prefers long-term relationships, pays well to reduce churn, and values the trust and reliability that comes from years of working together.

Hiring from an existing audience can create built-in alignment, but he still verifies skills with real tasks.

He said he sources hires from his newsletter audience because applicants are often “comically overqualified” and already aligned with his work; his process includes standards-based filtering, test tasks with deadlines, then interviews focused on character fit.

Ignoring “maintenance” eventually forces a harder correction, and he needed outside support to change.

He said he struggled with health habits after years of prioritizing psychological/emotional work, then hit a wake-up call after weight gain, poor sleep, heavy travel, and chest pain that tests showed wasn’t a heart problem—prompting him to hire a coach.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

And, and so my surprise is that there was just this profound kinda emptiness on the other side of that, of, "Oh, shit, what do I dream now?"

— Mark Manson

I spiraled into a little bit of a funk, like a little bit of a depression, and the worst thing about that type of depression is nobody wants to hear you talk about it.

— Mark Manson

And when I started getting that and started working and engaging with a lot of legacy media, I was like, "Wow, this sucks."

— Mark Manson

He said, "The one thing that becomes more scarce as you become famous is trust."

— Mark Manson

What I didn't realize is that as you scale the mountain, the things you have to say no to are proportionally difficult to say no to as how high you get.

— Mark Manson

Success-induced emptiness and imposter syndromeRegretful spending and lifestyle creep (house purchase)Legacy media vs. blogging feedback loopsFilm rights and documentary deal dynamicsTeam structure and in-house operationsHiring from newsletter audience; work-sample testsChoosing an agent and negotiation style fit (CAA)

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