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Tim FerrissTony Robbins Interview: Part 2 (Full Episode) | The Tim Ferriss Show (Podcast)
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Tony Robbins on Money Mastery, Ray Dalio, Fees, and Doubt
- Robbins argues that mutual fund fees and marketing quietly erode investors' returns, citing the 96% of funds that fail to match the market and the compounding effect of fees.
- He describes how Ray Dalio shared a simplified All Weather portfolio with him, which Robbins had back-tested over 30, 40 and 75 years, and how he put it in the book instead of keeping it for business.
- Robbins and Ferriss stress asset allocation through a secure bucket and a risk-growth bucket, set by true risk tolerance, time horizon and cash flow, and illustrated by a friend who lost heavily in 2008 through leverage.
- Robbins tells the story of challenging President Obama on political division and Simpson-Bowles in a room of Silicon Valley billionaires, and of later working with Mitt Romney.
- He closes by explaining how he handles doubt, with intuition, physical energy and forgiveness, and by pointing listeners to tonyrobbins.com and a free portfolio-checking tool.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasFees compound just like returns do.
Robbins says every 1% in fees costs about 20% of lifetime growth, and that someone paying 3% ends up with 65% less money than someone with the same return and lower fees.
Average returns can hide real losses.
Robbins shows that a 50% gain followed by a 50% loss leaves an investor well below the starting principal, and he cites a DALBAR study in which the average fund owner earned 2.5% against a 9.7% market.
Automating savings avoids the feeling of loss.
By committing a share of future raises ahead of time, people never see the money, and Robbins says workers who could only save three percent reached sixteen percent.
Whatever asset class you favor will likely drop sharply.
Robbins relays Dalio's warning that any asset class will fall at least 50% and more likely 70% in a lifetime, which is why diversification matters.
Most people underweight security and overweight risk.
Robbins says deciding what share goes into secure versus growth buckets is the most important investment decision, and he points to a leveraged friend who lost $400 million in 2008 as the cautionary tale.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesEverybody's a financial trader, but most people are making a bad trade. 'Cause they're trading time for money. Worst trade of your life 'cause you can't get more time.
— Tony Robbins
I think when you see that with real people's lives, you start to go, "I don't have to know the math. I just know one thing, fees matter, and I'm gonna cut those babies to the absolute base."
— Tony Robbins
Money is nothing but a tool that you either use for a life of service and a life... increase the quality of life for yourself or the people you love, or it's used on you as a weapon.
— Tony Robbins
Pain, you know, that everybody's got pain in their life, but suffering is optional
— Tony Robbins
For me, it took me a long time to think, to realize what investing represents for me, and it's not maximizing return. It's maximizing quality of life.
— Tim Ferriss
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