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UFC Hall of Famer Bas Rutten on Self-Defense, Savage Fight Stories, Breathing Techniques, and More

Brought to you by Maui Nui Venison wildly delicious venison https://mauinuivenison.com/Tim, LinkedIn Jobs recruitment platform with 800M+ users https://linkedin.com/Tim, and Eight Sleep’s Pod Cover sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating http://eightsleep.com/Tim. Sebastiaan “Bas” Rutten (@BasRuttenMMA) is a Dutch-American actor, former mixed martial artist, kickboxer, and professional wrestler. He was a UFC Heavyweight Champion and a three-time King of Pancrase world champion, finishing his career on a 22-fight unbeaten streak with a strike accuracy of 70.6%, the highest ever recorded by FightMetric. Rutten was co-host of Inside MMA on AXS TV from 2007 to 2016, and he has been a color commentator in several MMA organizations, including Pride Fighting Championships. He has appeared in numerous television shows, movies, and video games as an actor and continues to be involved in MMA through his coaching and publishing of instructional materials. Bas became a naturalized American citizen in the late 1990s, and in 2015 he was inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame. Please enjoy! 00:00 Start 01:43 My first exposure to the unbridled might of Bas Rutten. 03:31 Why is there such a strong martial arts tradition in the Netherlands? 05:58 Breathlessness, Bruce Lee, bullies, and birds: a glimpse into Bas’s childhood. 13:47 Why Bas walked out on a culinary career path and gave up modeling. 17:18 How Pancrase entered the picture. 27:09 Pancrase rules. 29:58 Why Ken Shamrock is known as Wayne Shamrock in Japan. 30:24 On fighting Masakatsu Funaki and Minoru Suzuki. 34:49 Underrated Japanese fighters. 37:12 Remembering Pride, UFC’s Japanese predecessor. 42:15 Pranks. 42:47 Absolute monsters. 51:22 Self-defense for beginners and bouncers. 01:09:45 Why even professional fighters shouldn’t start street fights. 01:11:35 Grand Theft Auto IV. 01:13:46 Now a devout Catholic, Bas explains how the rosary is like meditation. 01:26:56 Who picks fights with Bas Rutten these days? 01:29:13 That time Bas got into a bar fight with five bouncers in Sweden. 01:36:00 Re-learning how to breathe with the O2 Trainer. 02:25:26 Parting thoughts. Resources and show notes: https://tim.blog/2022/09/15/bas-rutten/ About Tim Ferriss: Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 800 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Connect with Tim Ferriss: Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Visit the Tim Ferriss PODCAST: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss BLOG: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/tferriss/ Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/ Like Tim Ferriss on FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/

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Sep 19, 20222h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Bas Rutten on fighting, faith, self-defense, and breathing mastery

  1. Bas Rutten recounts a childhood shaped by severe eczema, asthma, and bullying, and explains how martial arts became his path to self-defense and confidence.
  2. He explains why Dutch kickboxing rose to prominence by combining Western boxing with kicks, and describes Ramon Dekkers’ influence on his own training.
  3. Bas details how he was recruited into Pancrase, outlines its unusual rules (open-hand strikes, shoes, rope escapes, long rounds), and argues those rules produced exceptional fighters through added live experience.
  4. He contrasts sport fighting with real-world violence by emphasizing de-escalation, situational awareness, avoidance, and a small set of high-percentage techniques trained under pressure.
  5. He describes a major shift toward Catholic devotion, using the rosary as meditation, and ties habit-based discipline to his daily training and his work with inspiratory muscle training via the O2 Trainer.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

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Bas frames martial arts as a response to vulnerability, not early confidence.

He describes severe eczema and asthma, repeated bullying, and social isolation as formative pressures that made martial arts feel like a path to safety and self-respect. He credits seeing Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon with giving him a concrete model for self-defense and a reason to persist until his parents allowed him to train.

Early success in violence can reinforce escalation unless maturity and control catch up.

He says he learned bullies “weren’t really that strong” after his first fight, then aggressively confronted other bullies to protect himself and others—eventually realizing how quickly power dynamics can flip. He notes his parents’ fear of “martial arts equals violence” after police got involved, and he later returned to training after moving out.

He attributes the Netherlands’ kickboxing reputation to adaptation and style integration.

He explains Dutch kickboxing emerged after Dutch fighters got beaten in Thailand, then combined Western boxing with kicks to set up strikes. He points to Ramon Dekkers as an idol and says heavyweight-friendly demographics and a distinct Dutch style helped spread the approach until “pretty much everybody’s doing it.”

Bas credits Pancrase’s odd rules with producing unusually experienced, well-rounded fighters.

He recounts being recruited after sparring hard with a Rings champion, dropping him with a high kick, and catching the attention of Funaki and Suzuki. He highlights Pancrase’s unusual format: no weight classes, 30-minute single rounds, open-hand strikes, shoes/shin guards, and rope escapes, which he argues created huge amounts of live fight-time and accelerated skill development.

He emphasizes emotional regulation as a survival skill in both sport fighting and self-defense.

He describes the psychological challenge of long rounds against larger opponents and using “R” on his hands as a reminder to relax so he wouldn’t explode emotionally after getting hit. He also recounts a frightening early knockout where his opponent didn’t wake up for two days, which almost made him quit fighting.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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You know, when I was 12 I saw this movie Enter the Dragon. It was 17 years and older to get in, but my brother and I, we found a way to sneak in for free, and w- we, we were young, too young for the movie. And that's where I saw Bruce Lee. And boy, that, that was it.

— Bas Rutten

I literally made a list. I went, every single one of them had them, and other kids in school who got bullied, guess who took care of their problem, you know? Now I was the bully, the bully guy.

— Bas Rutten

Don't fight if they have a knife. Don't let your ego control yourself. You might die.

— Bas Rutten

There's nothing more important in your body that you can control than breathing. It's the number one priority.

— Bas Rutten

We feed, we think that pleasure is the same as being happy. It's not.

— Bas Rutten

Dutch kickboxing origins and styleChildhood asthma, eczema, and bullyingEarly street fights and consequencesPancrase recruitment and rule structureFunaki and Suzuki storiesPride’s scale, matchups, and declineDe-escalation and bouncer tactics in self-defense training realism and situational awareness, high-percentage techniques, and weapons considerations (knives vs guns) and legal risk, rosary as meditation and “mysteries,” habit discipline and sobriety, GTA IV motion capture and in-game show, O2 Trainer inspiratory muscle training: diaphragm mechanics, chest vs diaphragmatic breathing, metaboreflex/gassing, usage protocol

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