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The Future of AI Software Security | Ep. 39

Daniele Perito is Co-founder and Executive Chairman of depthfirst, an AI-native security platform that understands your code, business logic, and infrastructure to find real vulnerabilities, slash false positives, and give developers actionable fixes in their workflow. Daniele is also Co-founder and Board Member of Faire, where he previously served as Chief Data Officer and helped build the company’s data, risk, and analytics foundations from the early days to a multi-billion dollar valuation. Before co-founding Faire, Daniele worked at Square and was on the founding team of Cash App, where he focused on security, fraud, and risk systems supporting products used by millions of merchants and consumers. We covered: - Inception stories from Faire and Cash App - The ultimate truth seeking machine - Building superhuman attackers with AI - Who wins over time: attackers vs defenders - Why security feels like its own world Timestamps: (0:00) Intro (0:40) The founding Faire insight (4:34) Operational rigor of marketplace businesses (10:39) Starting a company now vs in 2017 (12:01) The inception story of Cash App (16:22) depthfirst’s mission (18:08) AI security landscape (26:10) Security is a fantasy world (31:15) Building superhuman attackers for defense (38:27) Roles of humans and AI in security (39:14) Platform vs pipeline businesses More on Daniele: https://depthfirst.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/danieleperito/ More on Jack: https://www.altcap.com/ https://x.com/jaltma https://linktr.ee/uncappedpod Email: friends@uncappedpod.com

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January 14, 2026
Duration
45m
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Uncapped with Jack Altman
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Daniele Perito is Co-founder and Executive Chairman of depthfirst, an AI-native security platform that understands your code, business logic, and infrastructure to find real vulnerabilities, slash false positives, and give developers actionable fixes in their workflow. Daniele is also Co-founder and Board Member of Faire, where he previously served as Chief Data Officer and helped build the company’s data, risk, and analytics foundations from the early days to a multi-billion dollar valuation. Before co-founding Faire, Daniele worked at Square and was on the founding team of Cash App, where he focused on security, fraud, and risk systems supporting products used by millions of merchants and consumers. We covered:

  • Inception stories from Faire and Cash App
  • The ultimate truth seeking machine
  • Building superhuman attackers with AI
  • Who wins over time: attackers vs defenders
  • Why security feels like its own world

Timestamps: (0:00) Intro (0:40) The founding Faire insight (4:34) Operational rigor of marketplace businesses (10:39) Starting a company now vs in 2017 (12:01) The inception story of Cash App (16:22) depthfirst’s mission (18:08) AI security landscape (26:10) Security is a fantasy world (31:15) Building superhuman attackers for defense (38:27) Roles of humans and AI in security (39:14) Platform vs pipeline businesses More on Daniele: https://depthfirst.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/danieleperito/ More on Jack: https://www.altcap.com/ https://x.com/jaltma https://linktr.ee/uncappedpod Email: friends@uncappedpod.com

SPEAKERS

  • Daniele Perito

    guest
  • Jack Altman

    host

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Uncapped with Jack Altman, featuring Daniele Perito and Jack Altman, The Future of AI Software Security | Ep. 39 explores aI-driven security and building Depthfirst to defend software ecosystems Daniele Perito (co-founder of Faire, early Cash App leader) explains how marketplace businesses demand operational rigor, truth-seeking through experimentation, and comfort with uncertainty—especially before true product-market fit.

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