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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
OkCupid Co-Founder Explains Why Perfect Love Algorithms Can't Exist
- Christian Rudder traces OkCupid's origins from a SparkNotes side project in 2003 and contrasts its profile-and-questions approach with the photo-centered swiping model of Tinder and Bumble, which he thinks delivers worse matches.
- He grades modern online dating a C minus, citing Tinder's drop from about 13 million to 8 million monthly users and noting that people are quitting apps rather than moving to alternatives.
- Dating data exposed uncomfortable patterns, including racial disparities in messaging and men of all ages overwhelmingly messaging women around 20, while women message people near their own age.
- Rudder argues no algorithm can predict who someone will love, so a better app would use AI to amplify the user's own voice, and his team shut down a machine learning matching effort because the person on the date was the final arbiter.
- He shares practical advice for app users: skip group photos, be yourself, take more risks on people outside your type, and try to de-gamify the experience.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasSwiping compressed what OkCupid once asked of users
Rudder says OkCupid asked for written profiles and match questions, while Tinder and Bumble reduced everything to a photo, a quick-hit experience that he thinks produces worse matches.
Dating apps may be an honest window into preferences
Rudder argues users have no incentive to lie to the app because misrepresenting preferences leads to bad dates, so the data reveals behavior that surveys or social media posturing may hide.
Stated preferences and actual behavior diverge on age
Men and women give similar age ranges when asked, but in practice women message people near their own age while men of all ages mostly message 20-year-olds.
Algorithms can't fully know who you'll love
OkCupid ended a machine learning matching program because the person going on the date was always the final arbiter, and Rudder says things like a laugh or a look in someone's eye can't be captured by a computer.
Engagement with politics and value rankings matter more than labels
Rudder's data suggested whether a couple agrees on how much politics matters predicted compatibility better than party affiliation, and a guest argued that matching on how values are ranked is where algorithms could help.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesWe've applied efficiency to something that isn't efficient. Love isn't efficient.
— Trevor Noah
The algorithms that are sort of grinding it all up, they just ultimately don't know you as well as you know yourself.
— Christian Rudder
You're running for office, and you just need one vote.
— Christian Rudder
It was like the lights coming on at last call.
— Christian Rudder
As humans, we hate searching, but we love finding. But we don't realize that finding is the conclusion of searching.
— Trevor Noah
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Trevor Noah
hostComedian and TV host who hosts the podcast "What Now? With Trevor Noah."
Christian Rudder
guestOkCupid co-founder and author of "Dataclysm," known for analyzing dating data and algorithms.
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