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At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Waveform reacts to new Samsung foldables, minimalist phones, and trackers
- The hosts open with a “did they even test this” complaint about how the Apple Weather app can show a rain/thunderstorm day icon even when rain only occurs briefly overnight and even after that window has passed.
- They discuss Garmin’s new screenless fitness tracker (Cirqa), liking the no-subscription baseline but criticizing the lack of standalone GPS, accessory pricing, and battery-life expectations for a screenless device.
- They react to Buzz, a Slack-like open-source group chat from Jack Dorsey’s Block that uses Noster for verification and includes AI “agents,” while noting real usability friction like inviting users.
- They debate the Light Flip’s minimalist flip-phone concept and aesthetics versus its missing modern essentials (like email, rideshare, and streaming), and they note it doesn’t ship until April next year.
- They recap Samsung Unpacked announcements—new watches, Flip 8, Fold 8 Ultra, and a new passport-style Fold 8—calling out confusing “Ultra” naming and highlighting improvements like reduced crease and faster charging.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasThe Apple Weather app’s daily icon/summary can be misleading for brief overnight rain.
A speaker says the Apple Weather app can label an entire day as thunderstorms even if rain happens only briefly (often overnight), and the icon doesn’t update even after that time has already passed. The group suggests this makes the overview view misleading and wants it to reflect “waking hours” or show mixed conditions more clearly.
Garmin’s screenless tracker avoids mandatory subscriptions, but still gates some features behind Connect Plus.
In discussing Garmin’s new screenless tracker, Andrew highlights the $200 price and that it can be used without a subscription, contrasting it with Whoop. He also notes Garmin Connect Plus exists (with a monthly cost) and criticizes putting live heart-rate zones behind that paywall.
The Garmin Cirqa’s phone-tethered GPS and 10‑day battery undermine its “Garmin for outdoors” expectations.
Andrew and others repeatedly call out the lack of onboard GPS as a major miss for a Garmin-branded screenless tracker, especially for outdoor activities. They also question the 10‑day battery life given there’s no screen and no standalone GPS, and debate who the product is really for.
Buzz is presented as “local Slack” built on Noster, with AI agents and developer-oriented features.
The hosts describe Buzz as a Slack-like group chat app from Jack Dorsey’s Block that is open-sourced and uses Noster for verification of actions. They note it also includes “agents” you can connect to different AI models and even a mini GitHub-like capability, while also joking about real-world adoption and usability quirks like inviting people.
Light Flip is a style-forward “minimal phone,” but its missing everyday tools make it feel like a secondary device for many.
The group debates the Light Flip: some admire the design and argue the price is reasonable for a niche, beautiful object; others argue it’s hard to justify $300 when cheaper flip phones or a $300 smartphone can do more. They emphasize the friction of T9/voice input, missing modern essentials (email, rideshare, payments, streaming, WhatsApp/Signal), and note it won’t ship until April next year.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesThe worst part about the Apple Weather app is that it can be sunny almost all day long. It will rain for, like, one hour at 1:00 in the morning. Mm-hmm. And if you are zoomed out on the weather, it says 90% chance of thunderstorms all day.
— Unattributed
It's GPS Connect only, which is through your phone.
— Andrew Manganelli
I hate to say this, but I almost feel like that's dead on arrival for this.
— Andrew Manganelli
Stop calling email app a distraction. I'm not, like, going through my email app, like- Doom scrolling my email through, like, spam.
— Andrew Manganelli
It's not every phone that swells is a Samsung, but every Samsung phone swells.
— Andrew Manganelli
SPEAKERS
Andrew Manganelli
hostCo-host of the Waveform Podcast, covering consumer tech news and reviews.
David Imel
hostCo-host of the Waveform Podcast, focused on smartphones, gadgets, and tech industry discussion.
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