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Samsung’s Newest Foldable is Here!

Finally, a classic gadget week! First, it's all about the Garmin Cirqa, the newest Whoop competitor to enter the fray. Then Marques, Andrew, and David debate whether the new Light Flip minimal phone is worth the asking price.

Andrew ManganellihostDavid Imelhost

Jul 24, 20261h 35mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Cold open: Light Phone misconceptions and sideloading Android apps
The conversation starts mid-debate about whether the Light Phone runs Android and what that implies. The hosts push back on the idea of sideloading apps, arguing that if someone wants Android apps, they should just buy an Android phone instead of fighting the Light Phone’s intent.
- •Andrew says he thought the Light Phone was just running Android
- •A speaker argues the point of the Light Phone is explicitly to avoid doing typical Android-phone things
- •Andrew notes some people sideload apps, but that’s not what the product wants
- •The group jokes that if you want Android apps, you shouldn’t ‘do this to yourself’
Show setup: gadget week preview and trivia season reset
The hosts introduce the episode and preview the main topics: a Garmin screenless tracker, Samsung’s foldables from Unpacked, and a new Light Phone product. They also reference the previous trivia episode and reset the scores for the new season.
- •Marques, Andrew, and David introduce themselves and the episode’s agenda
- •They preview Garmin’s Whoop-like tracker, Samsung foldables, and a new Light Phone
- •They reference the previous trivia episode’s point swings and outcome
- •They reset the new trivia season to zero across the board
“Did they even test this?” Apple Weather’s misleading daily rain icon
Marques complains about the Apple Weather app showing a rainy day icon even when rain only happens briefly—often overnight—making the day look worse than it is. The group discusses how weather apps represent a 24-hour period and suggests better glanceable UI approaches and alternative apps.
- •Marques describes the frustration of ‘rain all day’ icons caused by a short overnight shower
- •The hosts agree the daily overview is misleading without tapping into hourly detail
- •They propose making the icon dynamic or customizable to ‘waking hours’ and commute times
- •They mention alternatives like Carrot Weather and a Dark Sky-like layout with radar
Garmin Cirqa: a screenless tracker with no subscription—plus big trade-offs
The hosts break down Garmin’s new screenless activity tracker and why it’s both appealing and disappointing. They like the no-subscription model and Garmin ecosystem integration, but criticize missing GPS, shorter-than-expected battery life, expensive bands, and paywalled live heart-rate zone features.
- •Andrew introduces the Garmin Cirqa and reacts to its look, materials, and side button
- •They highlight the $199 upfront price and no required subscription, with a separate Connect Plus tier
- •Andrew is frustrated that some live features (like heart-rate zones) appear tied to the paid tier
- •They criticize phone-tethered GPS and question the 10-day battery life for a screenless device
- •They discuss who it’s for: likely existing Garmin watch owners who want lighter all-day tracking
Buzz from Jack Dorsey’s Block: “Slack-like” chat with Noster verification and agents
The group examines Buzz, an app from Jack Dorsey’s Block that they describe as extremely similar to Slack in design. They focus on its open-source, peer-to-peer flavor built around Noster verification, and they react to the built-in “agents” concept and the friction of inviting people via keys.
- •A speaker says Buzz looks almost identical to Slack and was made to reduce dependency on Slack
- •They describe actions being verified through Noster and content being stored locally plus on Noster
- •They mention an ‘agents’ tab where users can connect models (local, Claude, OpenAI)
- •They compare the vibe to earlier experiments like mesh/Bluetooth messaging and discuss invite friction
- •Andrew doubts real-world usefulness but admits the website and presentation are appealing
Light Flip debate: cute design, T9 input, missing essentials, and ‘work vs personal phone’ split
The hosts dig into the Light Flip: a $299 flip phone with a minimalist UI, physical buttons, and T9/voice-to-text input. They argue over who it’s for—some love the design and intentional limitations, while others criticize missing basics like email, rideshare, payments, and mainstream messaging.
- •They describe the Light Flip’s look and ‘IKEA/Teenage Engineering’ vibe, colors, and big buttons
- •Andrew runs through specs (2.8-inch OLED, T9/voice-to-text) and built-in tools (podcasts, directions, authenticator, etc.)
- •Marques questions the value versus cheaper flip phones or a smartphone with minimal use
- •Andrew criticizes calling email a ‘distraction’ and argues missing apps force it to be a secondary phone
- •David proposes using it as a personal phone while keeping a smartphone as a work phone
- •They note the long ship timeline and skepticism about availability
Trivia returns: BlackBerry Passport setup before the break
The show transitions into trivia with a question tied to ‘passport-style’ devices. David asks which company named a phone the Passport in 2014, saving the answer for later.
- •They formally reset trivia for the new season and start a new round
- •David asks which handset maker released a phone literally called ‘Passport’ in 2014
- •They clarify it wasn’t foldable and was produced for a limited period
- •They go to the break with the answer withheld
Samsung Unpacked reactions: Watch 9/Ultra 2, Flip 8, Fold 8 Ultra, and the new “passport” Fold 8
Right after watching Unpacked, the hosts react to Samsung’s announcements, including new watches, multiple foldables, and pricing shifts. The main excitement centers on the smaller, wide ‘passport-shaped’ Fold 8 and how it differs from the Fold 8 Ultra in positioning, cameras, and feel.
- •They recap new Galaxy Watch models, Flip 8 updates, and foldable lineup changes
- •They discuss the Fold 8 Ultra’s specs and the controversial ‘Ultra’ naming used to make room for a second Fold
- •They describe the smaller Fold 8’s outer and inner screen sizes/aspect ratios and lighter weight
- •They note camera differences (two cameras on the smaller Fold) and battery differences between models
- •They critique the branding logic and debate whether foldables are really used for productivity vs consumption
More Unpacked details: titanium display stack, ‘silicon’ battery talk, Qi2-ready cases, Now Nudge, and Gemini glasses teaser
The conversation shifts to build and software details: reduced crease via a new display structure, faster charging, and Samsung’s cautious language around battery chemistry. They also talk about Qi2 ‘ready’ accessories, AI-driven UI features, the new Galaxy credit card, and frustration over vague Gemini glasses demos.
- •They explain the ‘flex titanium display’ concept as a way to reduce crease and slim the panel stack
- •They discuss Samsung saying they’re ‘beginning to use silicon’ in batteries and the resulting charging/battery improvements
- •They note there’s no built-in Qi2 magnets, but it’s ‘Qi2 ready’ via magnetic cases or stickers
- •They cover Now Nudge and other software behaviors like automation happening in a small window
- •They talk about Samsung announcing a credit card and speculate why it exists (rewards, pushing Samsung Wallet)
- •They criticize the lack of real details on the Gemini glasses, including not letting reporters try them on
Trivia follow-up: One UI 9 music clip and the ‘Over the Horizon’ reveal
After the Unpacked discussion, they run a trivia question about the song playing during a One UI 9 demo. Multiple wrong guesses lead to a hint, and the answer is revealed as Samsung’s ‘Over the Horizon,’ including a mention of a specific cover version.
- •David asks what song was playing when media controls appeared during the demo
- •They struggle, request hints, and make joking guesses
- •A key hint points to Samsung as the artist context
- •They reveal the answer: ‘Over the Horizon’
- •They mention a Dirty Loops version tied to Samsung’s channel
Explain in tech terms: mile world record, AI math chatter, and modern pacing systems
The hosts try to explain a new mile world record using tech analogies, touching on how hard it is to contextualize elite speed. The discussion detours into AI being used around hard math problems, then returns to sports tech like pacers and track pacing lights that guide record attempts.
- •They cite the new mile world record time and discuss how difficult it is to comprehend
- •They attempt a tech analogy and bring up AI discourse around disproving/proving conjectures
- •They contrast lofty expectations of AI with more superficial uses seen elsewhere
- •They explain how pacers and track lighting systems help runners target exact record pace
- •They describe the structure of the race: pacers early, solo push late
Gear corner: Peak Design Field Bracket with hidden tracker and modular camera mounting
The hosts highlight Peak Design’s new Field Bracket, explaining how it combines an L bracket with modular mounting options. They’re especially interested in the integrated tracker that works with both Apple Find My and Google Find Hub, and they discuss pricing, compatibility limits, and the pre-order model.
- •They explain what an L bracket does for portrait tripod shooting
- •They describe the bracket’s modular ‘cage’ features and accessory mounting (including ‘cheese plate’ talk)
- •They call out the tracker hidden flush in the bracket and its cross-platform tracking support
- •They mention battery life and replaceable coin battery for the tracker tag
- •They cover Kickstarter-style pre-orders, price tiers, and limited camera compatibility lists
Apple device leasing rumor: Klarna-backed program, terms, and the ‘recession/depression indicator’ jokes
The hosts react to a report that Apple will offer a leasing-style upgrade program for devices, similar to car leases. They talk through lease lengths by category, buyout options, Klarna’s role, and their skepticism about financing—while repeatedly joking about what it signals economically.
- •They describe the rumored Apple leasing model and compare it to car leases
- •They list reported lease durations for iPhones/Apple Watches versus iPads/Macs
- •They discuss the possibility of buying out the device at the end of the lease
- •They say the program is reportedly backed by Klarna and debate what that implies for Apple’s risk
- •They caution against leasing certain devices and suggest considering used devices instead
Trivia answers, Mac rumor reading, and sign-off
They return to trivia to reveal the earlier ‘Passport’ answer and continue casual banter around tech rumors. The episode wraps with end credits and a final score check-in that leaves one host insisting they still have zero points.
- •They reveal the ‘Passport’ phone answer as BlackBerry Passport
- •They reminisce about past BlackBerry devices and features
- •They read a tweet about multiple Macs and redesigns reportedly coming in future cycles
- •They close out with trivia score banter and the show’s credits/outro

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