No.1 Money Saving Experts: Do Not Buy A House! Putting Money In A Bank Makes You Poorer!

No.1 Money Saving Experts: Do Not Buy A House! Putting Money In A Bank Makes You Poorer!

The Diary of a CEOSep 15, 20252h 9m

Steven Bartlett (host), Jaspreet Singh (guest), Raoul Pal (guest), Humphrey Yang (guest), Steven Bartlett (host), Narrator, Narrator

Why traditional advice about saving and homeownership is often harmfulStrategies for increasing income and monetizing skillsInvesting frameworks: advisors, passive index funds, active investing, and cryptoInflation, currency debasement, and the retirement crisisBitcoin, Ethereum, staking, and the role of crypto in portfoliosDebt management, bankruptcy, and escaping financial crisisPsychology of money: discipline, emotional control, and social pressure

In this episode of The Diary of a CEO, featuring Steven Bartlett and Jaspreet Singh, No.1 Money Saving Experts: Do Not Buy A House! Putting Money In A Bank Makes You Poorer! explores stop Saving, Start Investing: Why Houses And Cash Make You Poor This roundtable brings together three money experts to challenge conventional wisdom on saving, homeownership, retirement, debt, and crypto. They argue that blindly saving cash, rushing into a mortgage, and relying on pensions or Social Security are recipes for becoming poorer over time. Instead, they emphasize increasing income, disciplined investing (primarily in index funds and tech), and, for some, calculated exposure to high-upside assets like crypto. Throughout, they stress emotional discipline, tracking spending, building networks, and designing a realistic long‑term plan that fits your personality, risk tolerance, and life stage.

Stop Saving, Start Investing: Why Houses And Cash Make You Poor

This roundtable brings together three money experts to challenge conventional wisdom on saving, homeownership, retirement, debt, and crypto. They argue that blindly saving cash, rushing into a mortgage, and relying on pensions or Social Security are recipes for becoming poorer over time. Instead, they emphasize increasing income, disciplined investing (primarily in index funds and tech), and, for some, calculated exposure to high-upside assets like crypto. Throughout, they stress emotional discipline, tracking spending, building networks, and designing a realistic long‑term plan that fits your personality, risk tolerance, and life stage.

Key Takeaways

Being Just A ‘Saver’ Guarantees You’ll Get Poorer

Parking money in a low-interest bank account while inflation runs higher is a guaranteed loss of purchasing power. ...

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Don’t Treat Your Primary Home As A Wealth-Building Investment

A main residence is best viewed as a lifestyle expense, not a reliable investment. ...

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Index Funds Should Be Most People’s Core Investment

For 90–98% of people, simple index funds (e. ...

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Crypto Can Close The Wealth Gap—But Only For The Right People

Bitcoin and broader crypto have massively outperformed every traditional asset in the last decade, driven by technology adoption and currency debasement. ...

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Income, Skills, And Network Matter More Than Cutting Coffee

While trimming expenses helps, building higher‑value skills and improving your network produce far greater upside. ...

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Track Spending And Build A Simple Money System

Most people underestimate their spending and avoid looking at their finances, which breeds anxiety and bad decisions. ...

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Passive Income Is Real, But Not For The Desperate And Unprepared

The internet romanticizes ‘passive income’, but in reality every so‑called passive stream sits on years of work, systems, capital, or risk. ...

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Notable Quotes

The difference between the person that becomes wealthy and everybody else is wealthy people save and invest their money first. Everybody else spends all their money and wonders where it went.

Jaspreet

A house, a primary house, is not an investment, never will be. It can be an investment in your future, but it’s not a wealth-building asset.

Raoul

The average person is a saver. That’s one of the biggest money mistakes, because if your money’s just sitting in a bank account, you’re becoming poorer every single day.

Jaspreet

We’ve been given the gift of the greatest performing asset the world has ever been given. That’s not just Bitcoin, that’s the entire crypto complex.

Raoul

If you want extreme change, it’s not gonna happen without extreme change. You can't binge Netflix two hours a day and then complain that debt is ruining your life.

Jaspreet

Questions Answered in This Episode

Given the data that 90%+ of active funds underperform the S&P 500, in what specific situations would you still recommend someone try to be an active stock picker instead of using index funds?

This roundtable brings together three money experts to challenge conventional wisdom on saving, homeownership, retirement, debt, and crypto. ...

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For a 28‑year‑old renter in an expensive city earning £50,000 with no assets but no debt, how would each of you allocate their next £10,000 across NASDAQ, S&P, crypto, and cash—down to percentages and why?

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Raoul argues that Millennials must take outsized risk in crypto to ever afford a home, while Jaspreet warns most will panic-sell during crashes. What concrete psychological training or safeguards would you prescribe to make high-volatility investing realistically survivable?

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You call homeownership ‘one of the worst pieces of advice’ in today’s environment—what specific price-to-income or rent-to-price thresholds would flip your view and make buying a primary residence a financially smart move again?

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If Social Security and public pensions are effectively underfunded ‘Ponzi-like’ schemes, what alternative retirement blueprint would you design for a 25‑year‑old today—step-by-step from their first job through age 65, including target milestones like Coast FIRE numbers?

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Transcript Preview

Steven Bartlett

When I grew up, everyone said to me that to generate wealth, get a job, get money, then get a mortgage.

Jaspreet Singh

That's one of the worst pieces of advice you can give somebody.

Raoul Pal

And your future self is gonna be poorer because of it.

Steven Bartlett

But that's what everyone's doing.

Raoul Pal

Because we're not taught this stuff.

Steven Bartlett

So, what do you think the biggest money mistake the average person makes is?

Raoul Pal

Being a saver.

Steven Bartlett

So, just having your money sat in a bank account?

Raoul Pal

Yeah.

Jaspreet Singh

It's a guaranteed loss. You're becoming poorer every single day.

Humphrey Yang

But there are plenty of ways to retire early and be financially independent.

Raoul Pal

And that's including secret hack that makes people fortunes.

Humphrey Yang

So, let's talk about making more money. (cash register trilling)

Jaspreet Singh

This is the ultimate money-making master class. As we are joined by three financial gurus. With very different opinions and methods...

Raoul Pal

... to build future wealth.

Steven Bartlett

So, I want to talk about pensions, credit cards, renting, bad money habits, debts, passive income, spending money to look rich. But first, what is it that rich people know that the average person doesn't know?

Humphrey Yang

Rich people are more disciplined, and they're doing little things that compound into huge results.

Jaspreet Singh

Like investing. But, for example, the average American spends more money on Netflix than they do on their investments. And if I invest $1,000 a month for 30 years in something like the S&P 500, I will have about $1.9 million.

Raoul Pal

Well, there's no asset in all human history that's ever generated as much wealth in the shortest period of time than Bitcoin.

Jaspreet Singh

But there's one problem. Bitcoin is high risk, and if any of those risks happen-

Raoul Pal

Well, I don't dis-

Jaspreet Singh

Let me, let me finish. Do you want to have hope that you have the Bitcoin, or would you rather have more security?

Raoul Pal

You can reduce risk.

Jaspreet Singh

I was about to-

Raoul Pal

It's our job to educate them.

Steven Bartlett

So, if someone has $1,000, what would you suggest they did?

Humphrey Yang

I have a different take on this if you're trying to make more money. I would-

Steven Bartlett

And what about bad money habits? Because when you look at the stats, money is the number one source of stress for Americans, topping work, family, and health.

Jaspreet Singh

Well, there's a three-step framework, so I want to get into that. Number one...

Steven Bartlett

I see messages all the time in the comments section that some of you didn't realize you didn't subscribe, so if you could do me a favor and double-check if you're a subscriber to this channel, that would be tremendously appreciated. It's the simple, it's the free thing that anybody that watches this show frequently can do to help us here to keep everything going and this show in the trajectory it's on. So, please do double-check if you've subscribed, and, uh, thank you so much, because in a strange way, you are- you're part of our history and you're on this journey with us, and I appreciate you for that. So, yeah, thank you. (instrumental music) I think the, the first place to start is people want to know how they can make more money, because i- if you don't feel like you have money, saving and investing and these kinds of things appear to be pointless. I also understand that that's not necessarily true. I think you can, you can start investing and saving with very small amounts of money. But for those people that are asking that question, if they're listening to this now and going, "How does one make money? Like, you know, I've got this job, I'm working a 9:00 to 5:00. It's paying me £30,000 a year or $40,000 a year," whatever it might be. Is the right question to be asking, "How do I make more money? And if so, how do I do that?"

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