
Young Men Are (Quietly) Giving Up...Here’s Why!
Logan Ury (guest), Scott Galloway (guest), Steven Bartlett (host), Steven Bartlett (host), Scott Galloway (guest), Steven Bartlett (host), Narrator
In this episode of The Diary of a CEO, featuring Logan Ury and Scott Galloway, Young Men Are (Quietly) Giving Up...Here’s Why! explores lost Boys: Why Young Men Are Failing And How To Help The episode explores the growing crisis facing young men—loneliness, economic failure, educational underachievement, addiction, and romantic exclusion—through data, lived experience, and behavioral science.
Lost Boys: Why Young Men Are Failing And How To Help
The episode explores the growing crisis facing young men—loneliness, economic failure, educational underachievement, addiction, and romantic exclusion—through data, lived experience, and behavioral science.
Drawing on the UK “Lost Boys” report, academic research, and dating app data, the guests argue that fatherlessness, school environments poorly suited to boys, economic stratification, and digital escapism are driving a generation of disaffected young men.
They show how shifting gender roles and online dating have created a severe “mating gap” where high-achieving women and a small elite of men pair off, while a large cohort of men are left out and drift into porn, gaming, and extremist online communities.
The conversation ends with practical solutions for parents, policymakers, and young men themselves—emphasizing male role models, men’s groups, vocational paths, emotional skills, and a new, healthier definition of modern masculinity.
Key Takeaways
Loss of male role models is a primary failure point for boys.
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Schools are structurally misaligned with many boys’ developmental needs.
Boys mature neurologically later than girls; girls’ prefrontal cortexes are roughly 18 months ahead. ...
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A severe ‘mating gap’ is emerging, leaving many men romantically sidelined.
Women’s educational and early‑career gains mean many now seek partners with equal or higher status in a shrinking pool of men. ...
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Porn, gaming, and soon AI companions are displacing real‑world growth.
Easy, frictionless access to high‑stimulus porn and immersive games gives young men a constant dopamine “bag” that competes with the hard, uncertain work of school, career, and dating. ...
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Modern masculinity must combine provider/protector roles with emotional skill.
Women still strongly prefer men who signal competence and future resources, but many no longer need a sole provider and instead demand emotional intelligence and partnership at home. ...
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Men’s groups and male peer ‘boards of directors’ are powerful, scalable support.
Formal men’s groups—small, regular circles where men share top life issues, hold each other accountable, and go beyond banter—can substitute for inaccessible therapy and rebuild male community. ...
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Economic and policy structures are amplifying male failure at the bottom.
Western economies have become winner‑take‑all systems designed to identify the top 1–10% and shower them with outsized rewards, while neglecting broad‑based opportunities. ...
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Notable Quotes
“If we want better men, we need to be better men.”
— Scott Galloway
“Emotional intelligence is the new currency in dating.”
— Logan Ury
“We are literally evolving a new species of asexual, asocial male.”
— Scott Galloway
“Women don’t have to do worse when men do better.”
— Logan Ury
“Masculinity isn’t toxic. Violence, cruelty, and cowardice are toxic. Masculinity is being a provider, a protector, and a procreator.”
— Scott Galloway
Questions Answered in This Episode
You argue that losing a male role model is the key ‘first domino’ for boys. How would you redesign family courts, social services, and school staffing to systematically ensure that every fatherless boy gets at least one consistent, vetted male mentor?
The episode explores the growing crisis facing young men—loneliness, economic failure, educational underachievement, addiction, and romantic exclusion—through data, lived experience, and behavioral science.
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Online dating apps clearly turbo‑charge hypergamy and leave average men invisible. If you were running a major dating app, what specific product or algorithm changes would you make to reduce this winner‑take‑all dynamic without destroying user growth?
Drawing on the UK “Lost Boys” report, academic research, and dating app data, the guests argue that fatherlessness, school environments poorly suited to boys, economic stratification, and digital escapism are driving a generation of disaffected young men.
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You both criticize porn and AI companions for numbing men’s ‘mojo,’ but restraint is hard when real‑world rejection is brutal. What is a realistic weekly ‘protocol’ for a lonely 22‑year‑old—concrete numbers for porn, social outreach, and self‑work—that actually shifts his trajectory in six months?
They show how shifting gender roles and online dating have created a severe “mating gap” where high-achieving women and a small elite of men pair off, while a large cohort of men are left out and drift into porn, gaming, and extremist online communities.
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You describe feminism’s gains as a ‘collective victory’ but also say men’s economic and romantic collapse threatens birth rates and social stability. Where, in your view, should policymakers draw the line between promoting women’s advancement and deliberately intervening to shore up struggling men without sliding into backlash politics?
The conversation ends with practical solutions for parents, policymakers, and young men themselves—emphasizing male role models, men’s groups, vocational paths, emotional skills, and a new, healthier definition of modern masculinity.
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Logan’s men’s‑group example and Scott’s coaching framework are powerful but depend on self‑selecting, relatively motivated men. How would you adapt these ideas for the truly ‘lost boys’—the NEET 19‑year‑old in his bedroom who distrusts institutions, feels humiliated by school, and is already radicalized by red‑pill content?
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Transcript Preview
This is a critical conversation around truly the future of humanity.
But we don't like to talk about this.
This report is absolutely shocking. This is a crisis and young men are struggling, so I sat down with two leading voices on societal issues to discuss the rise of millions of lonely, addicted men. And the most important question is, how do we fix this? So let's start with this graph. It shows that young women are now out- out-earning young men.
It is true. We have given women so many tools to achieve, but now boys are being left behind.
And that the number of males aged 16 to 24 who are not in education or employment has increased by a staggering 40%.
Yeah.
And the data I've seen is that when the woman in the relationship starts making more money, they become twice as likely to get divorced.
Because traditionally women seek partners who have more economic or social status than they do, and emotional intelligence is the new currency in dating. But these guys were raised not to be emotionally intelligent-
Yeah.
... but to be a provider.
That a lack of male involvement in kids' lives is a big factor leading to this. And once they lose a male role model, they become much more likely to engage in criminal activity.
And so we are just creating a lot of these angry young single men who are saying, "Well, this is rigged against me."
We actually emboss an audience to write in, and this guy, Jeffrey, wrote in and said, "My entire life, I have never felt like I was good enough, like I could never earn my place in society."
It's devastating. That's something that's controversial, I'm getting pushback on. I think the secret weapon for men that they don't leverage is to... (instrumental music plays)
So we wanna hear a woman's perspective on it.
Honestly, what I would do is... (instrumental music plays)
This has always blown my mind a little bit. 53% of you that listen to this show regularly haven't yet subscribed to this show. So could I ask you for a favor before we start? If you like this show and you like what we do here and you wanna support us, the free simple way that you can do just that is by hitting the subscribe button. And my commitment to you is, if you do that, then I'll do everything in my power, me and my team, to make sure that this show is better for you every single week. We'll listen to your feedback, we'll find the guests that you want me to speak to, and we'll continue to do what we do. Thank you so much. Lost Boys. In March 2025, The Center of Social Justice released this report which has sh- sent a couple of shock waves across the UK, especially across the media. And just to give you a little bit of a sort of preface and some context on what this report says, at the start of the report, Andy Cook, who's the CEO of the report, says, "We listened to those working on the front line, the teachers, the youth workers, the charities, and the parents who s- day in, day out see the struggles of young people, and in recent years, they've been telling us the same thing. Something is going on with our boys." And because of this, they wrote this report called The Lost Boys which looks at all of the- the different facets of why young men are struggling. And in this report they say, "Boys are struggling in education, they're more likely to take their own lives, they're finding it more difficult to find stable work, and far too often they're caught in crime. The numbers don't lie. Something has shifted and we cannot ignore it any longer. It's not just about Andrew Tate or online influencers. These are symptoms, not the cause. The deeper truth is that too many boys are growing up without the guidance, discipline, and purpose they need to survive." And there's some frankly horrific graphs which actually sent the CEO of my company, a lady called Georgie, um, into quite an emotional state. She- she texted me and told me she was crying look at- looking at some of these graphs which we'll talk about today. But this is a subject that I know both of you know very, very well, so I'm keen to get into exactly why this is happening and what we can do about it. But to preface this discussion to understand where you both come from and the perspective you have, Logan, who are you?
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