The Love Expert: Why Women Are Addicted To Toxic Men,"Have A Boring Relationship Instead!" Logan Ury

The Love Expert: Why Women Are Addicted To Toxic Men,"Have A Boring Relationship Instead!" Logan Ury

The Diary of a CEOOct 26, 20231h 48m

Logan Ury (guest), Steven Bartlett (host)

Attachment theory and the anxious-avoidant loopSecure vs. avoidant/anxious partners and ‘boring’ relationshipsDating tendencies: romanticizers, maximizers, hesitatersThe ‘spark’ myth vs. slow-burn attraction and the Post-Date EightAddiction to toxic partners and partial reinforcement (the ‘fuckboy’ effect)Designing better dates and improving digital dating (profiles, DBL, filters)Vulnerability, self-esteem, and realistic expectations in long-term relationships

In this episode of The Diary of a CEO, featuring Logan Ury and Steven Bartlett, The Love Expert: Why Women Are Addicted To Toxic Men,"Have A Boring Relationship Instead!" Logan Ury explores why We Crave Toxic Partners And How To Choose Better Behavioral scientist and Hinge’s Director of Relationship Science, Logan Ury, explains why so many people struggle to find and sustain healthy love despite desperately wanting it. Drawing on attachment theory and relationship research, she unpacks why we chase “spark,” confuse icks with dealbreakers, and get hooked on emotionally unavailable partners. She introduces frameworks like attachment styles, the anxious-avoidant loop, the three dating tendencies, and the “post-date eight” to help people date more intentionally. The conversation emphasizes choosing secure, “boring” partners, fighting well, building vulnerability, and treating dating as a series of conscious decisions rather than a passive search for perfection.

Why We Crave Toxic Partners And How To Choose Better

Behavioral scientist and Hinge’s Director of Relationship Science, Logan Ury, explains why so many people struggle to find and sustain healthy love despite desperately wanting it. Drawing on attachment theory and relationship research, she unpacks why we chase “spark,” confuse icks with dealbreakers, and get hooked on emotionally unavailable partners. She introduces frameworks like attachment styles, the anxious-avoidant loop, the three dating tendencies, and the “post-date eight” to help people date more intentionally. The conversation emphasizes choosing secure, “boring” partners, fighting well, building vulnerability, and treating dating as a series of conscious decisions rather than a passive search for perfection.

Key Takeaways

Attachment styles drive who you’re attracted to and how you behave in conflict.

Logan explains secure, anxious, and avoidant attachment, showing how childhood patterns often replay in adult romantic relationships. ...

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Secure partners can feel ‘boring’ but are actually the best bet for long-term happiness.

Securely attached people are consistent, direct, and emotionally available, but many daters misread this as neediness or a lack of excitement. ...

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We are addicted to inconsistent partners due to the partial reward effect.

Using B. ...

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Your expectations—not the ‘dating pool’—are often what’s holding you back.

Logan outlines three dating tendencies: romanticizers (unrealistic beliefs about soulmates and effortless romance), maximizers (endless searching for a perfect Frankenstein partner), and hesitaters (waiting to ‘fix themselves’ before dating). ...

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The ‘spark’ is overrated; evaluate dates by how you feel, not fireworks.

Logan’s motto is “fuck the spark. ...

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Dating is a series of intentional choices; you’re always choosing a set of problems.

Great relationships, Logan says, are the culmination of many good decisions: who to date, keep dating, commit to, and marry. ...

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Better dating results require better environments, digital hygiene, and vulnerability.

Logan urges people to design dates that show their best sides (e. ...

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Notable Quotes

We were born knowing how to love, but we’re not born knowing how to date.

Logan Ury

You think you know what you want, but you’re wrong.

Logan Ury

Securely attached partners are the heroes of the relationship world.

Logan Ury

You can't hustle your way into a relationship.

Logan Ury

At some point you have to realize you are choosing a set of problems.

Logan Ury

Questions Answered in This Episode

For someone stuck in a strong anxious-avoidant loop with a current partner, what are the concrete signs they should keep doing the work versus accept that this particular pairing is unhealthy and walk away?

Behavioral scientist and Hinge’s Director of Relationship Science, Logan Ury, explains why so many people struggle to find and sustain healthy love despite desperately wanting it. ...

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When you coach maximizers who genuinely have many high-quality options (status, looks, resources), what specific exercises or constraints have proven most effective in breaking their endless comparison habit?

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How can people distinguish between a ‘slow burn’ with real potential and a genuinely low-chemistry match they’re forcing themselves to like because they’ve been told to ‘fuck the spark’?

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Are there circumstances where an avoidant–anxious pairing can become exceptionally strong and secure over time, or do you generally advise those combinations to seek secure partners instead?

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Given your concern about icks and perfectionism, are there any ‘hard’ dealbreakers you believe people should hold onto no matter what, even if research hasn’t directly linked them to relationship success?

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Transcript Preview

Logan Ury

Most people want to find love. But the truth is, you think you know what you want, but you're wrong. But there's a lot of great relationship science out there, and this might be the number one thing that I want people to take away. So if you're-

Steven Bartlett

Logan Ury. Hinge's dating scientist from Harvard. She's renowned for her data-driven approach- To help millions of people find love.

Logan Ury

Big things in my work are fuck the spark, the post-date eight, and the three dating tendencies. So let's go through that. The spark is this idea that we go after initial chemistry, the fireworks, but the spark often leads to relationships that burn out. Fuck the spark. The post-date eight are eight questions to ask yourself after a date, training your brain to a new way of dating. And finally, most people suffer from one of these three dating tendencies, and that's what's holding them back from finding love.

Steven Bartlett

And can you change it?

Logan Ury

Yeah. So the first type is Ditch Me. People in great relationships have made a bunch of good choices, and the truth is, the person that ends up making them happy in the long term is very rarely who they thought they should be with. If you are single and you don't want to be, at some point you have to realize, you are choosing a set of problems. Why do I keep falling for dickheads? Or people often confuse pet peeves, the ick, for deal breakers. Like, "He has a Velcro wallet."

Steven Bartlett

(laughs)

Logan Ury

I can buy you a new fucking wallet. And they say to me, like, "I don't want to meet on an app, it's not romantic," but the number one way that couples are meeting is online. And so, because I want to help so many people find love, these are the top tricks for a great Hinge profile. First of all, your bio.

Steven Bartlett

I think this is fascinating. I looked at the back end of our YouTube channel, and it says that since this channel started, 69.9% of you that watch it frequently haven't yet hit the subscribe button. So, I have a favor to ask you. If you've ever watched this channel and enjoyed the content, if you're enjoying this episode right now, please, could I ask a small favor? Please hit the subscribe button. Helps this channel more than I can explain, and I promise, if you do that, to return the favor, we will make this show better, and better, and better, and better, and better. That's a promise I'm willing to make you if you hit the subscribe button. Do we have a deal? Logan, why does your work matter?

Logan Ury

My work matters because most people, almost everyone, wants to find love, and it's really hard. And I meet people and I see how badly they want it, I see how long they've been trying to get it, and they're getting in their own way. And so, I do the work that I do because I want to help people understand the blind spots that are holding them back from finding love, and I want to help them get out of their own way, develop new patterns, new habits, and find love.

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