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Substack Cofounder on AI Slop Content & the Decline of Social Media

What if the future of media isn’t controlled by algorithms or legacy institutions—but by independent voices building directly with their audiences? In this episode, Erik Torenberg is joined by Chris Best, cofounder and CEO of Substack, along with a16z general partners Katherine Boyle and Andrew Chen. We trace the origin story of Substack and its cultural impact, including how it reinvented the business model for independent media. We also explore the evolution of blogging, the rebundling of media, and what the future holds as attention becomes the scarcest resource. Timecodes: 0:00 The Future of Media & Substack’s Role 0:48 The 2020 Media Landscape and Free Speech 3:19 Substack’s Founding Philosophy 6:10 The Evolution of Blogging and Business Models 8:27 Building Direct Connections with Audiences 11:41 The Vision and Growth of Substack 17:57 Algorithms, Networks, and Creator Incentives 22:00 High Value Audiences and Advertising 23:48 AI, Content Creation, and the Value of Attention 29:17 Unbundling, Rebundling, and the New Media Economy 33:01 The Future of Media 38:10 Academia, and Long-Form Writing 43:53 Substack’s Ambitions and Recent Fundraising Resources: Find Chris on Substack: https://cb.substack.com/ Find Chris on X: https://x.com/cjgbest Find Andrew Chen on Substack: https://andrewchen.substack.com/ Find Andrew on X: https://x.com/andrewchen Find Katherine on X: https://x.com/KTmBoyle Find Katherine on Substack: https://boyle.substack.com/ Stay Updated: Let us know what you think: https://ratethispodcast.com/a16z Find a16z on Twitter: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Subscribe on your favorite podcast app: https://a16z.simplecast.com/ Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details, please see a16z.com/disclosures.

Erik TorenberghostChris BestguestKatherine BoyleguestAndrew Chenguest
Sep 2, 202547mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Released
September 2, 2025
Duration
47m
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a16z
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

What if the future of media isn’t controlled by algorithms or legacy institutions—but by independent voices building directly with their audiences? In this episode, Erik Torenberg is joined by Chris Best, cofounder and CEO of Substack, along with a16z general partners Katherine Boyle and Andrew Chen. We trace the origin story of Substack and its cultural impact, including how it reinvented the business model for independent media. We also explore the evolution of blogging, the rebundling of media, and what the future holds as attention becomes the scarcest resource. Timecodes: 0:00 The Future of Media & Substack’s Role 0:48 The 2020 Media Landscape and Free Speech 3:19 Substack’s Founding Philosophy 6:10 The Evolution of Blogging and Business Models 8:27 Building Direct Connections with Audiences 11:41 The Vision and Growth of Substack 17:57 Algorithms, Networks, and Creator Incentives 22:00 High Value Audiences and Advertising 23:48 AI, Content Creation, and the Value of Attention 29:17 Unbundling, Rebundling, and the New Media Economy 33:01 The Future of Media 38:10 Academia, and Long-Form Writing 43:53 Substack’s Ambitions and Recent Fundraising Resources: Find Chris on Substack: https://cb.substack.com/ Find Chris on X: https://x.com/cjgbest Find Andrew Chen on Substack: https://andrewchen.substack.com/ Find Andrew on X: https://x.com/andrewchen Find Katherine on X: https://x.com/KTmBoyle Find Katherine on Substack: https://boyle.substack.com/ Stay Updated: Let us know what you think: https://ratethispodcast.com/a16z Find a16z on Twitter: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Subscribe on your favorite podcast app: https://a16z.simplecast.com/ Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details, please see a16z.com/disclosures.

SPEAKERS

  • Erik Torenberg

    host

    Podcast host at Andreessen Horowitz (a16z) who moderates interviews on technology, media, and startups.

  • Chris Best

    guest

    Cofounder of Substack, focused on building creator tools and a subscription-based media business.

  • Katherine Boyle

    guest

    General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz (a16z) with a background in writing and media/tech investing.

  • Andrew Chen

    guest

    General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz (a16z), known for work on growth, networks, and authoring on platform dynamics.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of a16z, featuring Erik Torenberg and Chris Best, Substack Cofounder on AI Slop Content & the Decline of Social Media explores substack’s bet: creator independence amid algorithms, AI slop, attention scarcity Substack positions itself as a new “economic engine for culture” that lets independent creators earn directly from audiences while retaining editorial freedom and audience ownership.

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