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Deep Dive with Ali AbdaalHow I Built a $72,000,000 Business In 5 Years | Julian Hearn Founder Of Huel
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Huel Founder Julian Hearn on Building Businesses Starting Late
- Julian Hearn left school at 16 with poor GCSEs, worked manual and petrol station jobs, then built a marketing career before starting his first online business around age 36 or 37.
- He taught himself SEO and affiliate marketing through evenings, weekends and podcasts, left his job once the side income was growing, and later sold his voucher code site, which he says was making £250,000 a month profit at the end, for a life-changing sum.
- His fitness site Body Hack led to Huel, a nutritionally complete powdered food he launched in June 2015 from his garage after struggling to find a manufacturer and buying the Huel.com domain.
- Hearn describes Huel's growth through PR, performance ads, premium pricing, a free T-shirt, customer-driven products, and a small team of graduates that grew to over 240 people, with him moving from CEO to CMO.
- He shares views on rigorous hiring with work tests and culture-fit vetoes, setting a culture of 'don't be a dick', pulling the plug quickly on poor performers, and answers audience questions on mistakes, motivation and starting small.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasYou don't need to start young to build a successful business
Hearn started at 36 or 37 after poor school results, manual jobs and a marketing career, and says people often wrongly assume they are stuck at that age.
Test a side project before quitting and treat the downside realistically
Hearn spent a year on evenings and weekends, saved enough to cover six months of bills, and felt confident he could return to a similar job, so the real risk was small.
Find an under-served niche within a crowded market
In voucher codes, he noticed that many checkouts said 'promotional code' while rivals targeted 'voucher codes', so he optimized for that overlooked keyword variant.
Price higher and add value rather than discount
Hearn says it is easier to lower a price than raise it, and he used a free T-shirt and other extras rather than discounts, partly drawing on persuasion principles of reciprocity.
Build the product around what customers say unprompted
He distrusts surveys and instead watches organic feedback and rejections, which led to Black Edition and Hot & Savory, while keeping the range to seven products.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesThe beauty of, like, say, working on, uh, e-commerce or creating content or doing whatever is if you put enough hours in, you can sometimes beat somebody with more talent than you.
— Julian Hearn
I don't think that's good for you and I don't think sitting on the beach is good for you. I think something between the two is good.
— Julian Hearn
You can read and learn for the rest of your life and never do a single thing, so you have to start at some point.
— Julian Hearn
You have to force it through, and there will be a time when it could last a year or two when you're gritting your teeth and going above and beyond.
— Julian Hearn
I think the biggest thing for tip for success is you've got to find some, this motivating thing. If you can try and find something that's gonna motivate you through the thick and thin, and it can't be just money, I don't think.
— Julian Hearn
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SPEAKERS
Ali Abdaal
hostProductivity YouTuber and entrepreneur, host of the interview podcast “Deep Dive.”
Julian Hearn
guestEntrepreneur and founder of Huel, a meal-replacement nutrition company.
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