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Deep Dive with Ali AbdaalWhy You’ve Been Breathing Wrong Most Of Your Life
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Breathwork demystified: nasal breathing, CO2 tolerance, and practical exercises
- Ali Abdaal interviews breathwork coach Mike Maher about whether breathwork is a scam, and Mike argues there’s real science behind it while acknowledging some scammy elements can exist like in any field.
- Mike presents “functional breathing” as the foundation—primarily nasal, slower, and more efficient breathing—before exploring more intense hyperventilation-style practices such as the Wim Hof method.
- A central theme is that chronic mouth breathing can reduce CO2 tolerance, potentially making oxygen delivery less efficient, while nasal breathing provides filtering, conditioning of air, and nasal nitric oxide benefits.
- They discuss practical ways to assess and improve breathing, including breath-hold and walking tests, nose-unblocking breath holds, and structured exercises like box breathing and diaphragmatic/360-degree breathing.
- The episode ends with a guided mini-session of breathing and mobility exercises and pointers to further resources, including Mike’s course and his interview podcast series.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasBreathwork is best understood as two categories: breathe less vs. breathe more.
Mike Maher frames breathwork as “breathplay” and says it can be simplified into two broad categories: practices where you “breathe less than you need” (functional breathing) and those where you “breathe more than you need” (hyperventilation-style practices). His emphasis throughout is to prioritize everyday breathing fundamentals before experimenting with intense techniques.
Nasal breathing is portrayed as the default “designed” way to breathe, with multiple protective functions.
Mike argues the nose provides key functions—filtering particles, warming/cooling and humidifying air, adding resistance/pressure, and producing nasal nitric oxide; he also claims nitric oxide can kill bacteria and that humming increases nitric oxide. He contrasts this with mouth breathing, which he describes as a stressful “backup valve” meant mainly for emergencies.
Mouth breathing is presented as a CO2 problem that can reduce oxygen delivery efficiency.
Mike claims mouth breathing can lead to blowing off too much CO2, lowering CO2 tolerance and shifting the body into a cycle of air hunger and faster breathing. He explains this via chemoreceptors that respond strongly to CO2 rises and uses the oxygen–hemoglobin “affinity” idea to argue that low CO2 makes oxygen delivery to tissues less efficient.
Daily baseline breathing matters more than occasional exercises, and not all mouth breathing is “bad” in every context.
Mike says there’s an important distinction between how you breathe all day (the ~25,000 daily breaths) and deliberate breathing exercises; he notes some mouth-breathing exercises (like sighing) can have specific purposes. His main claim is that the goal is to be nasal-breathing most of the day while still “playing” with techniques when appropriate.
Breathing habits can be tracked with simple tests, and CO2 tolerance can be trained over time.
Both discuss measurement and tracking: Mike mentions Patrick McKeown’s “maximum breathlessness test” (exhale, hold, walk, count steps) and also a breath-hold measure until the first impulse to breathe. He shares his own example of improving a breath-hold score over about six weeks by consistently practicing slower breathing with mild air hunger.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesI like to use the term now breathplay. That's my-
— Mike Maher
We need to get our foundation of breathing right because I believe we've lost our way how to breathe.
— Mike Maher
We don't breathe the way nature has intended us to breathe.
— Mike Maher
And it's a bold claim: you are literally starving yourself of oxygen by breathing through your mouth.
— Mike Maher
The exciting thing I've always found about breathwork, the reason I'm so passionate about it, is how you breathe affects how you think and feel.
— Mike Maher
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Ali Abdaal
hostDoctor-turned creator and host of Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal.
Mike Maher
guestBreathwork coach trained in Oxygen Advantage and Buteyko breathing methods, teaching breath training via his channel and course.
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