Episode Details
EPISODE INFO
- Released
- June 30, 2026
- Duration
- 1h 33m
- Channel
- Dwarkesh Podcast
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
Always so much fun to chat with @3blue1brown AI has been making much faster progress in math than in other fields. As a result, mathematics is showing us, very concretely, what AI progress in other fields will look like. Even within mathematics, there's a jagged landscape. What does it look like? What is the nature of the most important conceptual breakthroughs in the history of mathematics, and how different are they from what AIs are currently able to do? Does AI (on net) increase or decrease human understanding of the field? How big is the overhang from having AIs systematically try to connect ideas already in the literature? And what advice does Grant have for aspiring mathematicians, coders, and other students who are passionate about fields that are being most transformed upon by AI? 𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒
- Transcript: https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/grant-sanderson-2
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SPEAKERS
Dwarkesh Patel
hostPodcast host and interviewer on the Dwarkesh Podcast.
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Dwarkesh Podcast, featuring Dwarkesh Patel, Grant Sanderson (@3blue1brown) – AI and the future of math explores aI’s rapid math progress reshapes proofs, discovery, and curation roles Math looks like a leading-edge “spike” for AI, but even within math capability is fractal and uneven, making single benchmarks (like IMO gold) poor proxies for general intelligence.
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