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Why Kids Saying No Is a Good Sign | Dr. Becky and Chris Voss

Chris Voss is a former FBI lead kidnapping negotiator, bestselling author of Never Split The Difference, and founder and CEO of The Black Swan Group; a negotiation, training, coaching, and consulting organization that teaches people how to achieve better outcomes in high-stakes conversations. Today, he teaches some of these same skills to parents, and it turns out the thing that gets a hostage-taker to put down a weapon isn't that different from what gets your eight-year-old to put down the tablet. Obviously, kids aren't actual hostage-takers, but in this conversation, Chris and Dr. Becky get into why kids saying "no" is actually a sign of a healthy nervous system, not defiance. Why "how was your day" always gets you "fine," and the one-word fix that doesn't. Why asking your kid "why" almost always backfires, and what to ask instead. And the reframe Chris uses with his own team to get a reluctant partner, coworker, or teenager to actually engage: "are you against this?" Chapters 0:00 – Intro: when your kid says no 1:39 – Why "no" makes kids feel safe, not defiant 8:28 – "How" and "what" questions get kids thinking, not orders 13:24 – Mirroring 101: the tool that reopens conversation 15:26 – Fixing the "How was your day?" / "Fine." loop 21:31 – Mirroring an escalated "I hate you" 24:11 – The "before I disagree" cheat code 27:00 – "You're right" vs. "That's right" 34:01 – Why "why" backfires, and what to ask instead 39:44 – Nothing works all the time; you need what works most 44:08 – The power of a real apology 46:08 – Does repairing cost you your authority? 47:33 – The deepest question under every tantrum: "Am I real?" 51:48 – Getting a reluctant partner on board: "Are you against this?" Want more support navigating the moments that test you as a parent? Good Inside gives you the tools and community for that: https://www.goodinside.com Thank you to our partners for making this episode possible: Frida: Shop Frida at Amazon, Target, and Walmart today Airbnb: Host your home or book your next stay on Airbnb SmartyPants: Shop SmartyPants Vitamins at Target, Walmart, or Amazon today Care.com: For a limited time, you can use the code BECKY35 to save 35% on a Care.com Premium Membership.* Offer applies to initial term of Care.com membership subscriptions. Not applicable to add-on features or non-renewing access fees or services. Expires 10/31/26. Care.com does not employ or place any caregiver. Background checks are an important start, but they have limits. Visit www.care.com/safety. #goodinside #drbecky #chrisvoss #parenting #negotiation #communication

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CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:16

    When your kid says “No”: reframing defiance as a moment of connection

    Dr. Becky opens with the most common parent struggle—refusal—and introduces Chris Voss’ negotiation lens. The episode’s throughline is that conflict follows patterns, and parents can learn tools that reduce escalation while protecting connection.

    • Parents commonly interpret “no” as defiance and feel pressure to force cooperation
    • Chris Voss’ hostage-negotiation background is framed as pattern-recognition for conflict, not equating kids with criminals
    • Tools previewed: mirroring, labeling, voice/tone, better questions, and welcoming “no”
    • Focus on what to do in the seconds after refusal while staying connected
  2. 2:16 – 5:47

    Why “no” makes people (and kids) feel safe and autonomous

    Voss explains that people love saying “no” because it restores a sense of safety, protection, and autonomy. Dr. Becky connects this to child development: kids often use “no” as a boundary when they lack words for their experience.

    • “No” is a protective boundary; “yes” can feel risky because people have been ‘yes’d’ into things
    • Empathy means tracking the other person’s internal experience, not your intent
    • Kids learn autonomy by observing adults model boundaries, including saying “no”
    • Strong-willed kids may escalate when they feel controlled because autonomy is a core need
  3. 5:47 – 10:32

    From orders to thinking: using “how/what” questions and planning for predictable flashpoints

    Instead of issuing commands, Voss recommends “how” and “what” questions to invite thinking and collaboration. They also highlight timing: problem-solve outside the crisis moment and anticipate predictable trouble spots like bedtime.

    • Orders rarely help kids think; collaboration reduces the “me vs. you” dynamic
    • Use ‘how’ questions to connect a child’s goals to the parent’s goal (e.g., sleep → tomorrow’s energy)
    • How/what questions trigger deeper thinking and can be fatiguing—timing matters
    • Don’t wait until you’re ‘up to your rear end in alligators’; plan in calmer moments
  4. 10:32 – 13:27

    Eliciting a productive “no”: no-oriented questions that open real discussion

    Voss shows how deliberately inviting “no” can reduce defensiveness and lead to honest implementation talk. They discuss how yes can feel like a trap (a “tie-down”), while no protects autonomy and enables genuine obstacle-sharing.

    • Swap ‘Do you agree?’ for ‘Do you disagree?’ to make it safer to respond honestly
    • A yes/no is just a decision; what matters is the discussion that follows (obstacles/implementation)
    • People fear ‘yes momentum’ because each yes can feel binding
    • Autonomy is positioned as a primary human need that drives resistance when threatened
  5. 13:27 – 15:05

    Mirroring 101: the tiny skill that reopens conversation

    Voss introduces mirroring—repeating the last 1–3 words with a curious or understanding tone—to signal listening without lecturing. The goal is to keep the other person talking and feeling heard, especially when autonomy is at stake.

    • Mirror by repeating the last words (usually 1–3, rarely more than 5)
    • Use downward inflection for understanding; upward inflection for curiosity
    • Mirroring communicates ‘I’m with you’ without forcing agreement
    • This tool is especially effective with kids seeking autonomy during puberty and beyond
  6. 15:05 – 21:20

    Breaking the “How was your day?” → “Fine.” cycle with silence and true listening

    They diagnose why kids shut down: rapid-fire questions can signal agenda rather than attunement. Mirroring plus a six-second pause gives space for ‘feeling heard’ to land and helps kids re-engage over repeated attempts.

    • Kids learn you didn’t listen if you jump immediately to the next question
    • “I understand” can land as a shutdown phrase; mirroring shows you actually caught their words
    • Silence matters—neurochemical effects of being heard take time (about six seconds)
    • The deeper subtext of ‘Fine’ can be: ‘Are you really here? Do I matter?’
  7. 21:20 – 24:06

    Mirroring escalation: responding to “I hate you” with curiosity (without approving it)

    Voss models mirroring even in intense moments to protect the parent’s state of mind and keep the channel open. Dr. Becky raises a common fear—curiosity equals permissiveness—and they clarify that empathy is not agreement.

    • Mirror an attack with curiosity: ‘Hate me?’ to avoid getting hooked into offense
    • Curiosity helps parents regulate themselves first so they can stay effective
    • Empathy ≠ approval, sympathy, agreement, or permissiveness
    • Staying curious can coexist with holding firm limits on disrespectful behavior
  8. 24:06 – 27:01

    The “before I disagree” cheat code and summarizing their perspective accurately

    To reduce anxiety about being too validating, Voss offers a phrase that explicitly preserves boundaries while still listening. The key is summarizing the other person’s perspective (not your own), showing you’re not scared of their emotions.

    • Use: ‘Before I disagree, let me see if I got this right…’
    • Summarize their viewpoint, not yours—avoid the trap of retelling your perspective
    • Saying their ‘dramatic’ version out loud signals you can handle it and aren’t overwhelmed
    • The aim is moving from adversaries to teammates against the problem
  9. 27:01 – 33:47

    “You’re right” vs. “That’s right”: the difference between shutdown and true alignment

    Voss explains that “you’re right” often functions as a polite dismissal—getting someone to stop talking—while “that’s right” signals shared truth and deeper bond. Dr. Becky connects this to parent-child repair and reconnection after misattunement.

    • ‘You’re right’ can be a strategy to end conflict, not real agreement
    • ‘That’s right’ emerges when someone feels deeply understood and aligned with reality
    • Relational impact: ‘that’s right’ removes barriers and strengthens connection
    • Owning parental patterns in calm moments can elicit ‘that’s right’ and reset trust
  10. 33:47 – 39:31

    Why “why” backfires—and the better swap to “what” to reduce accusation

    They unpack why ‘why’ questions trigger defensiveness: people associate them with blame from early childhood. Replacing ‘why’ with ‘what’ keeps curiosity while removing the accusation and invites a causal story you can problem-solve.

    • ‘Why’ is culturally conditioned as ‘you made a mistake’ → anger/defensiveness
    • Parents often use ‘why’ as a disguised accusation, not real curiosity
    • Swap to ‘What made you do that?’ to keep inquiry but reduce sting
    • Separate the trigger from the response: understand the factor without excusing behavior
  11. 39:31 – 43:31

    Nothing works all the time: using negotiation tools as high-probability strategies

    Voss normalizes that communication tools won’t succeed 100% of the time; the goal is improving odds. Dr. Becky applies this to recurring teen conflict, reframing aggression (door slams, ‘I hate you’) as the end of a long unmet-heardness chain.

    • People’s bad choices can be a progression of failures, not a sudden shift
    • Aim for tools that work ‘more than anything else,’ not perfection
    • Escalation in families can reflect years of feeling misunderstood
    • ‘Feeling heard’ requires reflecting back, not merely hearing internally
  12. 43:31 – 47:03

    Repair and real apologies: humility as strength, not loss of authority

    They discuss repair as a relationship strategy: sincere apologies rebuild trust and model fearlessness. Voss argues the fear that apologizing undermines authority is often imagined, rooted in anxiety rather than evidence.

    • A real apology has no ‘I’m sorry you feel that way’ deflection
    • Apologize for snapping even if your underlying point was correct
    • Repair prevents accumulation of ruptures that damage connection
    • Humility is framed as fearlessness and powerful modeling for kids
  13. 47:03 – 50:43

    The deepest question under tantrums: “Am I real?” (autonomy, agency, and validation)

    Dr. Becky offers a core developmental frame: beneath big feelings is a child’s search for realness and confirmation. Voss links this to autonomy and agency—needing to feel you can affect your life—helping explain escalation when feelings are dismissed.

    • Emotional pain lacks ‘proof,’ so kids look to parents for confirmation they’re real
    • Autonomy and agency intertwine with the need to be seen and validated
    • When people don’t feel real, they escalate to force recognition
    • This dynamic shows up in families and high-stakes negotiations alike
  14. 50:43 – 54:52

    Getting a reluctant partner on board: ‘Are you against this?’ + labeling to reopen collaboration

    They end with a practical script for co-parenting alignment using a no-oriented question that preserves autonomy. If resistance remains, Voss adds silence and a label—‘Seems like you’ve got a reason for saying that’—as a universal opener, even with kids.

    • Use: ‘Are you against watching this with me?’ to lower defensiveness
    • Follow ‘no’ with logistics: ‘What time would work?’
    • If they say ‘yes,’ pause—silence creates space for reconsideration
    • Label resistance to invite explanation: ‘Seems like you’ve got a reason for saying that’

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