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Overcoming Physical & Emotional Challenges | Coleman Ruiz

In this episode, my guest is Coleman Ruiz, a former Tier One U.S. Navy SEAL joint task force commander. He served in Afghanistan and Iraq and as a BUD/S training officer. He shares his journey from childhood through the Naval Academy to elite Navy SEAL special operations. He shares the physical and emotional challenges he has overcome and discusses his struggle with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). He also talks about the key role of mentors, family and friends in building resilience. Coleman gives us a raw, humble account of hitting rock bottom. He tells of the intense pain, fear, depression and suicidality in his journey of redemption. Coleman’s story is a real-life hero’s journey. He tells it with extraordinary vulnerability and humility. He explains the challenges and sudden tragedies that helped to ground, shape and renew him. His story will inspire listeners of all ages and backgrounds. Note: This conversation includes profanity and topics that are not suitable for all audiences and ages. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman Maui Nui Venison: https://mauinuivension.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman Plunge: https://plunge.com/huberman Momentous: https://livemomentous.com/huberman Coleman Ruiz Team Red, White & Blue: https://bit.ly/3vKu0Jc Liminal Collective: https://bit.ly/3PSl4bn Ames Watson: https://bit.ly/49AwCY8 Naval Academy: https://bit.ly/4aprPKc X: https://twitter.com/colemanruiz Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/colemanruiz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coleman-ruiz-b65a2531 Books A Fighter's Heart: https://amzn.to/43Rr1uX Mindset: https://amzn.to/3TS8CK7 Bridge at Dong Ha: https://amzn.to/3PUtmQ2 Fearless: https://amzn.to/49mTwC9 The Hero with a Thousand Faces: https://amzn.to/49rFzTd The End of Faith: https://amzn.to/3vx35k8 Why Buddhism is True: https://amzn.to/4cQuyxJ The Body Keeps the Score: https://amzn.to/4cGSDHr Range: https://amzn.to/3xuzwQH Other Resources They Shall Not Grow Old: https://imdb.to/3VPYVyy Pale Blue Dot: https://youtu.be/wupToqz1e2g Extortion 17: https://bit.ly/3U7hP2r Veteran Solutions: https://vetsolutions.org Huberman Lab Episodes Mentioned Dr. Anna Lembke: Understanding & Treating Addiction: https://youtu.be/p3JLaF_4Tz8 Dr. Alia Crum: Science of Mindsets for Health & Performance: https://youtu.be/dFR_wFN23ZY Robert Greene: A Process for Finding & Achieving Your Unique Purpose: https://youtu.be/50BZQRT1dAg Guest Series | Dr. Paul Conti: How to Understand & Assess Your Mental Health: https://youtu.be/tLRCS48Ens4 Space-Time Bridging (timestamp): https://youtu.be/wTBSGgbIvsY?si=mk4-iUrvAvGaaqFp&t=8094 What Alcohol Does to Your Body, Brain & Health: https://youtu.be/DkS1pkKpILY 90-min Caffeine Delay (timestamp): https://youtu.be/iw97uvIge7c?feature=shared&t=3224 People Mentioned Doug Zembiec: wrestler, Major USMC: https://bit.ly/3W7CB3B John Ripley: Colonel USMC, Dong Ha Bridge: https://nyti.ms/3xrj5EN Mike Martin: SEAL Master Chief, Vietnam War: https://bit.ly/3TMCY0E Britt Slabinski: Senior Chief Special Warfare Operator, SEAL: https://bit.ly/4aIaoUJ Thomas Valentine: Senior Chief Special Warfare Operator, SEAL: https://bit.ly/49sI87L Adam Brown: Chief Petty Officer, SEAL: https://bit.ly/4d1bqgT Paul Bucha: Captain US Army, Vietnam War: https://bit.ly/3TNm2XJ Sir Charles Sherrington: Nobel Prize in Physiology: https://bit.ly/3VPUL9D Timestamps 00:00:00 Coleman Ruiz 00:01:55 Sponsors: BetterHelp, Maui Nui Venison & Eight Sleep 00:06:06 Childhood, “Wildness” 00:13:24 Wrestling, Combat Sports & Respect 00:22:26 Divorce, College Applications & Naval Academy 00:29:51 Sponsor: AG1 00:31:22 Prep School, Patriotism, Fear 00:40:08 Growth Mindset, 24-Hour Horizon 00:43:02 Naval Academy, Mentor, Focus 00:52:45 Wife, Work Ethic 00:59:23 Sponsor: Plunge 01:00:51 Navy SEALs, BUD/S, Hell Week 01:04:51 BUD/S Success Predictors; Divorce & Aloneness; Rebellion 01:16:30 Patriotism, Navy SEALs, Green Team 01:22:15 Advanced Training, Tier One, Free-Fall 01:26:13 Special Operations, Deaths & Grief 01:36:08 Mentor Death & Facing Mortality 01:47:49 Warriors & Compassion; Trauma, Family 01:52:37 Civilian Life Adjustment 01:57:39 Hero With a Thousand Faces, Civilian Return & PTSD 02:07:03 Massage, Perspective, Space-Time Bridging 02:14:10 Psychedelics, Connection, Warrior Culture 02:19:15 Rock Bottom: Talk Therapy, Depression, Alcohol 02:25:50 Emotional & Physical Pain, Vulnerability, Fighter Mentality 02:30:42 Suicide, Asking For Help & Support 02:38:32 Therapy, PTSD Recovery, Dread; Pharmacology 02:44:54 Healing Process: Unsatisfaction & Asking For Help 02:54:03 Daily Routine, Movement, Nutrition 03:02:22 Manhood, Range, Parenthood, Surrender 03:10:08 Current Pursuits 03:16:01 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter #HubermanLab Disclaimer: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

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Apr 7, 20243h 18mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Navy SEAL’s Journey: From Invincible Warrior To Vulnerable, Whole Man

  1. Former Tier 1 Navy SEAL operator Coleman Ruiz traces his life from a modest New Orleans upbringing through elite military service, intense combat, and deep personal loss, to a hard-earned psychological reckoning. He describes how early aggression and chaos were transformed through wrestling, structure, and the Naval Academy into an extreme work ethic and a narrow, high‑RPM focus that served him well in war but later broke him in civilian life. After years of repeated combat losses, a psychedelic-assisted experience, and a severe depressive crash that brought him to the brink of suicide, he was forced to confront long-ignored trauma. Through therapy, lifestyle changes, and accepting help from others, he rebuilt himself, broadened his emotional range, and found a different, more sustainable way to live, work, and be a husband and father.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Channel Aggression Into Structure, Not Suppression

Ruiz’s early adolescence was marked by fights, suspensions, and what he and Huberman call the “wildness” of dispersal—brain- and hormone-driven exploratory chaos. Wrestling gave that same intensity a container: extreme training, weight cutting, and one-on-one combat with rules and mutual respect. Actionable insight: if you or a young person has high aggression or restlessness, seek high-structure, high-effort outlets (combat sports, endurance training, physically demanding teams) rather than trying to simply suppress it.

Elite Performance Often Runs On Fear And Narrow Focus

From prep school to the Naval Academy to SEAL Team 3 and a Tier 1 special mission unit, Ruiz operated on a 24‑hour horizon, constantly trying to “earn his place” and never feeling good enough. Fear of failure, of being exposed as not belonging, and of losing his team drove relentless work and tactical excellence, but also left no space for introspection or emotional processing. Actionable insight: continuous high performance built on fear and self‑erasure works—until it doesn’t; building in reflection and broader life horizons is not a luxury but a long‑term requirement.

Unprocessed Combat Loss Accumulates As Invisible Trauma

Ruiz personally knew 40 comrades who were killed between 2003 and 2011, attended memorials roughly every 90 days, and even notified families himself. Each loss, especially the death of his mentor and friend, Marine Major Doug Zembiec, eroded his underlying belief that training and toughness made him and his peers somehow immune. He kept functioning, but with a growing, unnamed “low-grade burn” in his nervous system. Actionable insight: repeated exposure to death and high-stakes stress can feel manageable in the moment, but it stores as cumulative trauma that will surface later if not addressed.

Psychedelics Can Open Doors, But They Are Not A Shortcut

After leaving the military, Ruiz undertook an intensive, physician-supervised ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT protocol and felt an immediate, profound sense of connection to warrior cultures across time. A few months later, however, he crashed into severe depression. He believes the medicines “kicked the door wide open” and shattered his carefully constructed inner scaffolding, but he lacked a stabilizing therapeutic framework to help rebuild. Actionable insight: psychedelic-assisted work should be approached only after stabilization with skilled therapy; it is a nuclear option, not a first step, and can worsen instability if poorly timed or unsupported.

Depression Can Feel Physically Catastrophic—and Requires Help

Ruiz describes his depressive episode as feeling like someone filleted his chest open and scorched him from the inside with a torch. He had night sweats, shaking, and it took “10,000x the energy” of anything he’d ever done just to put his feet on the floor. For one day he seriously contemplated suicide, convinced others would be better off without him. A friend’s blunt tough-love (“You’d prove you’re a fraud”) and Huberman’s advice to “outsource your decisions” helped him step back from the edge. Actionable insight: when your “goggles are foggy,” you must externalize decisions and tell trusted people; suicidal thoughts are a medical and relational emergency, not a test of willpower.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I was entirely convinced that I couldn’t be killed. I was convinced our training was so good that that shit wouldn’t happen to us.

Coleman Ruiz

If Doug can be killed, all fucking bets are off.

Coleman Ruiz

It took 10,000 times the energy of anything I’ve ever done just to put my feet on the ground in the morning.

Coleman Ruiz

You have foggy goggles. You’re clearly not on stable ground. You have to outsource your decisions now.

Andrew Huberman (paraphrased by Ruiz)

Don’t mistake my kindness for weakness. There is a category for everything.

Coleman Ruiz

Childhood, dispersal, and early aggression in adolescenceWrestling and combat sports as a channel for chaos and violenceNaval Academy, SEAL training (BUD/S), and Tier 1 special operationsRepeated combat loss, grief, and the illusion of invincibilityPsychedelic-assisted interventions (ibogaine, 5-MeO-DMT) and their aftermathSevere depression, suicidality, and the decision to seek helpTherapy, lifestyle changes, and Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey as a recovery framework

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