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This Is What Real Freedom Looks Like - Pieter Levels

No more small boy spreadsheets, build your business on the free HubSpot CRM: https://mfmpod.link/hrd - Shaan Puri (@shaanvp - https://twitter.com/ShaanVP) and Sam Parr (@TheSamParr - https://twitter.com/theSamParr) talk to Pieter Levels (@levelsio - https://twitter.com/levelsio) about being a solopreneur who makes nearly $3M a year with no employees while living a nomadic lifestyle. Also, want $5,000? Check out the My First Million Clips contest (https://www.mfmpod.com/p/clips/). ----- Links: * Nomad List - https://nomadlist.com * RemoteOK - https://remoteok.com * BuyNothing - https://buynothingproject.org * Derek Sivers - https://sive.rs 📧: Sign up for The Hustle Daily Newsletter: https://mfmpod.link/lm7 🎙️: Download Our Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/fzCWM-H6 A podcast where we brainstorm new business ideas based on trends & opportunities we see in the market. Sometimes we have famous guests, and they do it with us. ----- Show Notes: (00:00) - Intro (01:32) - How Sam gets in touch with people (04:50) - How much Pieter makes (12:20) - How to become a hit solopreneur (17:55) - What Pieter uses to build (21:23) - Building to earn vs. building to sell (24:09) - How movements grow (28:20) - Thinking big as a solopreneur/Indie Hacker (31:55) - Businesses that could earn you $20k a month (40:45) - How Pieter spends and invests his money (46:40) - Why Pieter believes in Asia (50:34) - What Pieter spends money on (59:30) - Who Peter admires ----- For more quality videos subscribe here ➡https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyaN6mg5u8Cjy2ZI4ikWaug?sub_confirmation=1 🔔 Turn on notifications to stay updated with new uploads #shorts #youtubeshorts Like || Share || Subscribe

Sam ParrhostShaan Purihost
Jul 14, 20221h 20mWatch on YouTube ↗

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Solo Founder Earns Millions Through Automation, Transparency, and Simple Living

  1. The guest runs a handful of heavily automated businesses, mainly Remote OK, Nomad List and Rebase, with only part-time contractors, margins up to about 94%, and a public revenue meter pointing at roughly $3 million a year.
  2. Shaan Puri describes the guest's model as a flywheel that starts with a contrarian 'red pill' belief, builds authority through content, and spins off businesses, and the guest says it was organic rather than planned.
  3. The guest builds with PHP and jQuery for fast feedback loops, sells job-post bundles of around $50K through self-serve Stripe checkout, and declines to sell his companies at the 4-5X multiples bootstrapped businesses usually get.
  4. He spends only about $4-5K a month, puts the rest into ETFs and some crypto, and says he avoids lifestyle inflation because material purchases stop making him happy within weeks.
  5. The hosts push back on parts of his approach, with Sam arguing that salespeople can create demand and that radical transparency makes you a target, and the guest agrees on the security risk but says transparency is now central to his marketing.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

A solo business can be profitable with automation and part-time help

The guest has one part-time support contractor, a Slack moderator and a DevOps friend, and he says his sites are about 99% automated with very high margins, so he rarely needs to work on them.

Overnight success is often a decade of compounding

Shaan noted the guest's combined revenue stayed below roughly $700K a year until around 2019 and then jumped to about $2.5 million after 2020. The guest said he had predicted a surge in remote work in 2015 but didn't see COVID coming, and he describes his approach as surfing waves rather than controlling them.

A $20K-a-month app is already a million-dollar asset

Shaan cited the guest's tweet that at a 4-5X multiple, $20K a month in revenue makes you a millionaire. The guest agreed this is approachable if you keep margins high and use part-time contractors rather than a big team.

Fast feedback loops matter more than a fashionable stack

The guest uses PHP and jQuery because he knows them and can ship a new button in about 20 seconds. He argues that quick iteration pleases customers, whereas friends on heavier stacks can take hours or days to deploy a feature.

Selling a bootstrapped business often isn't worth it to him

He says bootstrapped multiples of 3-5X are too low, he'd consider selling at 10X, and he fears a buyer would ruin Nomad List, which he calls his life's work. He says most acquisition talks he has had fell through.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

You can only surf it. So I think the metaphor of surfing is very accurate. It's better to surf these waves, in general I think in life, just surf waves. Stop trying to control it, uh, just surf it.

— Unattributed

It's all about the headaches. So if you can afford it, you can reduce the headaches of ownership.

— Unattributed

You're optimizing for freedom, so, and happiness.

— Sam Parr

I don't need the 2%. I needed the peace of mind.

— Shaan Puri

that's how all progress actually looks if you zoom out far enough.

— Shaan Puri

Solopreneur flywheel and the 'red pill' modelRadical transparency and open revenue pagesSimple tech stack and automationSelling versus keeping bootstrapped businessesBusiness ideas for remote workersFrugal lifestyle and investing in ETFs and AsiaSales teams versus self-serve pricing

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