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#104 - COVID-19 for kids with Olivia Attia

In this episode, Peter sits down with his daughter to answer questions from her and other kids about COVID-19. We discuss: -What is a virus? [1:45]; -How did this version of coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) start? [4:30]; -How does COVID-19 compare to SARS and MERS (previous coronaviruses)? [6:00]; -Will COVID-19 come back again after we resolve the current issue? [7:15]; -When will kids go back to school? [7:45]; -How has the US surpassed China in total cases, and how could we have been better prepared for this? [8:30]; -Should have we started to quarantine sooner than we actually did? [11:45]; -What about herd immunity? Would it be easier if we all just got the virus so we could be immune? [13:45]; -Which age groups are the least and most at risk for getting a deadly version of the virus? [15:00]; -Why do we have to wipe down packages that are delivered to our homes? [16:30]; -How a lack of preparation and discipline led to this troubling situation [18:45]; -Is China to blame for all of this? [24:15]; -What did Olivia think when her parents pulled her out of school before it was mandated? [26:30]; -What’s been the hardest part of this for Olivia? [27:50]; -What does Olivia appreciate now that she probably didn’t appreciate in the past? [28:50]; -How are Olivia’s zone 2 workouts going? [30:00]; and -More. Show notes page: https://peterattiamd.com/covid-19-for-kids/ -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 30 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Subscribe to receive exclusive subscriber-only content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle

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Apr 12, 202034mWatch on YouTube ↗

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Peter Attia answers his daughter's kid-focused questions about coronavirus, preparedness, and quarantine life

  1. Peter Attia explains in kid-friendly terms what a virus is, how tiny it is, and how SARS-CoV-2 likely passed from bats to pangolins to humans in Wuhan around November.
  2. He compares COVID-19 with SARS and MERS, noting those were deadlier but spread far less, and says it is too soon to say when schools will reopen, though he guesses Olivia won't return this school year.
  3. Peter argues the US fared poorly because of missed warnings, no national equipment stockpile, and lack of early testing, and he uses a car-crash analogy to say blaming China alone ignores US responsibility.
  4. He uses the pandemic to teach about delayed payoffs and discipline, tying it to ice cream, screen time, farming, and the idea that discipline equals freedom.
  5. Olivia describes missing friends, sports, and easy classroom questions, while enjoying having her dad home and a new puppy, and mentions her zone 2 workouts.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Viruses need a host to replicate

Peter explains viruses lack the machinery to divide on their own, so they infect a host's cells to make copies; at about 100 nanometers wide, roughly 1,000 could line up across a cut hair's tip.

This virus is not the deadliest coronavirus, but it spreads widely

Peter says SARS killed about 10% and MERS about 30% of those infected, but they spread to few people, while this virus has caused over a million confirmed cases and likely many more unconfirmed.

Herd immunity is uncertain and risky

Peter notes it is unknown how long immunity lasts and that kids with little personal risk could still transmit the virus to higher-risk people like grandparents.

Younger and healthier people face lower risk of severe outcomes

Peter says age and conditions like high blood pressure or diabetes affect the chance of dying or being hospitalized, and that as of then no one Olivia's age in the US had died from it.

Preparedness failures were both recent and long-standing

Peter points to ignored warnings, no national stockpile of protective equipment, and not scaling up testing after the virus was sequenced in early January, comparing US deaths per million with South Korea's.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

It's sometimes really hard to do things for which the payoff is far in the future.

— Peter Attia

It's that a whole bunch of innocent people are suffering badly because the people who were supposed to be in charge, the grownups, so to speak, couldn't make the long-term trade-off.

— Peter Attia

So China may have cut us off in the freeway, so to speak, but we were driving too fast. We didn't have our seatbelts on. We had a couple of drinks in us. We were texting, and we were looking back to check on our kids in the car seat and tell them to stop arguing with each other.

— Peter Attia

You have to have discipline now so that it can benefit you later.

— Olivia Attia

Me and my friends are saying how we took school for granted, and we didn't realize how amazing it was to have school, because now we wish we had school.

— Olivia Attia

What a virus is and how smallOrigin of SARS-CoV-2Comparison with SARS and MERSHerd immunity and age-related riskUS pandemic preparedness failuresSafe handling of packages and handwashingDiscipline and long-term thinking

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