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Peter Attia MD#106-Amesh Adalja, MD: COVID-19 vs. past pandemics, preparing for the future, & reasons for optimism
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Pandemic Preparedness Expert Compares COVID-19 to Past Pandemics and Looks Ahead
- Adalja explains that he saw early on, from a Lancet paper showing a case with no market contact, that the virus spread human to human and could not be contained.
- He compares COVID-19 with the 1957 and 1968 flu pandemics, H1N1, SARS and MERS, arguing that influenza remains the biggest pandemic threat and that COVID-19 is additive to the yearly flu burden.
- He argues the damage was magnified by human factors, especially restrictive CDC testing criteria, bureaucratic hurdles in test development, and shortages of testing supplies and protective equipment.
- He estimates the case fatality rate at roughly 0.3 to 0.66 percent, criticizes models that overstated hospitalization rates, and favors locally managed, federally coordinated responses with tailored relaxation of restrictions.
- He remains optimistic because curves are plateauing, ventilators are being returned, and the economic pain may push the public to demand lasting pandemic preparedness.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasInfluenza remains the biggest pandemic threat
Adalja notes avian influenza strains have case fatality ratios around 65 percent, so a human-transmissible version would be far worse than COVID-19, which he sees as something of a trial run.
Testing policy turned a controllable outbreak into an unmanageable one
He says CDC criteria limited testing to people with China travel and lower respiratory symptoms, missing mild cases and the European introduction in New York, which allowed about two months of unabated spread.
Case fatality rate is an average that hides huge variation
He puts the overall rate around 0.3 to 0.66 percent, but says it may be as high as 15 percent for people over eighty and near zero for an eight-year-old.
Models are tools whose assumptions must be checked
He argues some models set the hospitalization rate too high, using 15 to 20 percent rather than perhaps 5 percent, and says they should be revised when real hospital data diverge.
A pandemic is many staggered local outbreaks
Timing, population density, hospital capacity, and distancing policies differ by place, so he expects ebbing and flowing and thinks relaxation of restrictions should be tailored locally.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesWe have this tendency to think of a pandemic as a homogenous wave over the whole world or even a country, but it's actually many small outbreaks together, and everybody's on a different timescale
— Dr. Amesh Adalja
These are tools, and all models are going to be wrong. Some of them are going to be useful, and some of them are not going to be useful.
— Dr. Amesh Adalja
They do lots of things that make us less resilient to pandemics, not realizing that this is a perpetual threat, just like any other national security concern, that you have to be prepared for this at all times
— Dr. Amesh Adalja
So we really have this biological dark matter everywhere.
— Dr. Amesh Adalja
You have a locally managed, federally coordinated response, which I think is the best way to think about how it would be ideally done.
— Dr. Amesh Adalja
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