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#106-Amesh Adalja, MD: COVID-19 vs. past pandemics, preparing for the future, & reasons for optimism

In this episode, infectious disease and pandemic preparedness expert, Amesh Adalja, M.D., puts the current pandemic into context against previous coronaviruses as well as past influenza pandemics. Amesh also provides his interpretation of the evolving metrics which have contributed to big variations in modeling predictions, whether this will be a seasonally recurring virus, and perhaps most importantly—how we can be better prepared for the inevitable future novel virus. Finally, Amesh explains where he sees positive trends which give him reasons for optimism. We discuss: -Amesh’s background in infectious disease [2:40]; -When did the virus actually reach the US? And when did Amesh realize it would pose a real threat to the US? [4:00]; -Comparing and contrasting COVID-19 to previous pandemics like the Asian flu of 1958 and the Spanish flu of 1918 [8:00]; -Will COVID-19 be a recurring seasonal virus every year? [14:00]; -Will a future vaccine be specific to this COVID-19 or will it also cover previous coronaviruses as well? [15:15]; -What does Amesh think might be the true case fatality rate of SARS-CoV-2? [16:15]; -Why did early models over predict infections and deaths by order of millions? [18:30]; -Role of government—How does Amesh view the role of local versus central government in dealing with a future pandemic? [21:50]; -What went wrong with testing and how could we have utilized it more effectively? [25:15]; -Future pandemic preparedness—why Amesh is cautiously optimistic [27:30]; -Should there be different policies and restrictions for places like New York City compared to less populated and less affected places across the US? [30:15]; -Why mass gatherings might be disproportionately driving the spread of the virus [32:30]; -Learning from HKU1, a lesser-known novel coronavirus from 2005 [34:00]; -Thoughts on Sweden’s herd immunity approach [36:10]; -The efficacy of masks being worn in public and what role they will play as restrictions are slowly lifted [37:20]; -What are some positive trends and signs of optimism? [39:15]; and -More. Show notes page: https://peterattiamd.com/ameshadalja/ -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 30 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Subscribe to receive exclusive subscriber-only content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle

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Apr 13, 202044mWatch on YouTube ↗

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April 13, 2020
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44m
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Peter Attia MD
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

In this episode, infectious disease and pandemic preparedness expert, Amesh Adalja, M.D., puts the current pandemic into context against previous coronaviruses as well as past influenza pandemics. Amesh also provides his interpretation of the evolving metrics which have contributed to big variations in modeling predictions, whether this will be a seasonally recurring virus, and perhaps most importantly—how we can be better prepared for the inevitable future novel virus. Finally, Amesh explains where he sees positive trends which give him reasons for optimism. We discuss: -Amesh’s background in infectious disease [2:40]; -When did the virus actually reach the US? And when did Amesh realize it would pose a real threat to the US? [4:00]; -Comparing and contrasting COVID-19 to previous pandemics like the Asian flu of 1958 and the Spanish flu of 1918 [8:00]; -Will COVID-19 be a recurring seasonal virus every year? [14:00]; -Will a future vaccine be specific to this COVID-19 or will it also cover previous coronaviruses as well? [15:15]; -What does Amesh think might be the true case fatality rate of SARS-CoV-2? [16:15]; -Why did early models over predict infections and deaths by order of millions? [18:30]; -Role of government—How does Amesh view the role of local versus central government in dealing with a future pandemic? [21:50]; -What went wrong with testing and how could we have utilized it more effectively? [25:15]; -Future pandemic preparedness—why Amesh is cautiously optimistic [27:30]; -Should there be different policies and restrictions for places like New York City compared to less populated and less affected places across the US? [30:15]; -Why mass gatherings might be disproportionately driving the spread of the virus [32:30]; -Learning from HKU1, a lesser-known novel coronavirus from 2005 [34:00]; -Thoughts on Sweden’s herd immunity approach [36:10]; -The efficacy of masks being worn in public and what role they will play as restrictions are slowly lifted [37:20]; -What are some positive trends and signs of optimism? [39:15]; and -More. Show notes page: https://peterattiamd.com/ameshadalja/ -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 30 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Subscribe to receive exclusive subscriber-only content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle

SPEAKERS

  • Peter Attia

    host

    Physician and host of The Drive podcast.

  • Dr. Amesh Adalja

    guest

    Infectious disease, emergency medicine, and critical care physician focused on pandemic preparedness and emerging infectious diseases.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Peter Attia MD, featuring Peter Attia and Dr. Amesh Adalja, #106-Amesh Adalja, MD: COVID-19 vs. past pandemics, preparing for the future, & reasons for optimism explores pandemic Preparedness Expert Compares COVID-19 to Past Pandemics and Looks Ahead Adalja explains that he saw early on, from a Lancet paper showing a case with no market contact, that the virus spread human to human and could not be contained.

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