Elon’s Ketamine Denial Hits New High | Pivot

Kara and Scott discuss Senator Joni Ernst's callous comments about Medicaid cuts, Texas's new law requiring app stores to verify ages, and Taylor Swift's blockbuster deal to get the rights to her masters. Then, Elon leaves The White House with a literal black eye, and denies a New York Times report about his ketamine use. Plus, Trump raises tariffs yet again, and lashes out at China. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 6:09 Sen. Ernst: “We All Are Going to Die” 14:41 Texas Age Verification Bill 21:29 Taylor Swift Regains Ownership of Masters 24:55 Elon Denies Drug Use 33:55 Trump Axes Elon Ally for NASA Admin 38:26 Trump Doubles Steel and Aluminum Tariffs 43:48 Trump Lashes Out at China 48:19 Wins and Fails #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #jodiernst #texas #taylorswift #elonmusk #drugs #trump #donaldtrump #nasa #tariffs #china Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Corinne Ruff Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

Kara SwisherhostScott Galloway (credits reader)hostJoni Ernst (clip artifact)guestTariff/China policy expert (clip guest)guestJeffrey Goldbergguest

Jun 3, 202557mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: June 3, 2025
Duration: 57m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Kara and Scott discuss Senator Joni Ernst's callous comments about Medicaid cuts, Texas's new law requiring app stores to verify ages, and Taylor Swift's blockbuster deal to get the rights to her masters. Then, Elon leaves The White House with a literal black eye, and denies a New York Times report about his ketamine use. Plus, Trump raises tariffs yet again, and lashes out at China. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 6:09 Sen. Ernst: “We All Are Going to Die” 14:41 Texas Age Verification Bill 21:29 Taylor Swift Regains Ownership of Masters 24:55 Elon Denies Drug Use 33:55 Trump Axes Elon Ally for NASA Admin 38:26 Trump Doubles Steel and Aluminum Tariffs 43:48 Trump Lashes Out at China 48:19 Wins and Fails #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #jodiernst #texas #taylorswift #elonmusk #drugs #trump #donaldtrump #nasa #tariffs #china Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kevin Oliver Corinne Ruff Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

SPEAKERS

Kara Swisher
host
Scott Galloway (credits reader)
host
Joni Ernst (clip artifact)
guest
Tariff/China policy expert (clip guest)
guest
Narrator
other
Jeffrey Goldberg
guest

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, Elon’s Ketamine Denial Hits New High | Pivot explores elon’s Ketamine, Trump’s Tariffs, Taylor’s Masters, And Toxic Politics Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway open with personal banter before diving into U.S. political coarseness, starting with Senator Joni Ernst’s flippant Medicaid comment and what it reveals about Trump-style cruelty becoming a political norm. They debate the impact of social media on rage, gender relations, and public decorum, and argue there’s a big opening for ‘adult in the room’ leadership focused on fiscal responsibility and basic decency. They then examine state and potential federal efforts to age‑gate social media and smartphones, strongly backing stricter rules for minors while dismissing Big Tech’s privacy objections as cynical. The episode also covers Taylor Swift’s $360M reclaiming of her masters, Elon Musk’s alleged drug use and political downfall in “Doge,” Trump’s tariff theatrics and likely market manipulation, China tensions, U.S. reputation damage abroad, Ukraine’s daring military success, and a lighter close with cultural wins and fails.

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