Sam Altman Says OpenAI Not "Moral Police" After Backlash | Pivot

Kara and Scott discuss the fallout from the Young Republicans' Telegram chat leak, Instagram’s new protections for teens, and OpenAI allowing "erotica" for adults. Plus, Kara has thoughts about Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff’s call for National Guard troops in San Francisco, and Scott has a prediction about the future of the podcasting business. We're going on tour! Get your tickets at https://pivottour.com #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #youngrepublicans #telegram #instagram #Chatgpt #openai #samaltman #salesforce #marcbenioff #sanfrancisco 00:00 Intro 6:41 Leaked Young Republican Texts 18:45 AI Safety Bills 28:51 Instagram’s PG-13 Rating 38:23 Meta Removes Ice-Tracking Page 46:46 Marc Benioff: Send Troops to SF 56:29 DOD’s New Press Policy 01:04:42 Predictions Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Video Producer: Jim Mackil Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

Scott GallowayhostKara SwisherhostGuestguest

Oct 17, 20251h 20mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: October 17, 2025
Duration: 1h 20m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Kara and Scott discuss the fallout from the Young Republicans' Telegram chat leak, Instagram’s new protections for teens, and OpenAI allowing "erotica" for adults. Plus, Kara has thoughts about Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff’s call for National Guard troops in San Francisco, and Scott has a prediction about the future of the podcasting business. We're going on tour! Get your tickets at https://pivottour.com #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #youngrepublicans #telegram #instagram #Chatgpt #openai #samaltman #salesforce #marcbenioff #sanfrancisco 00:00 Intro 6:41 Leaked Young Republican Texts 18:45 AI Safety Bills 28:51 Instagram’s PG-13 Rating 38:23 Meta Removes Ice-Tracking Page 46:46 Marc Benioff: Send Troops to SF 56:29 DOD’s New Press Policy 01:04:42 Predictions Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Video Producer: Jim Mackil Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

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EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Scott Galloway and Kara Swisher, Sam Altman Says OpenAI Not "Moral Police" After Backlash | Pivot explores altman’s AI Erotica, Teen Safety, and Tech’s Hypocrisy on Morality Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway move from personal banter into a sharp discussion of racism in leaked Young Republican Telegram chats, arguing the offenders aren’t kids and should face real-world consequences, while calling out J.D. Vance’s hypocrisy. They then dissect Sam Altman and OpenAI’s decision to allow erotic content in ChatGPT, warning that AI-powered, frictionless sexual and romantic experiences could devastate young men’s development and human relationships. The conversation broadens into teen safety on social media and chatbots, critiquing Gavin Newsom’s veto of a broad AI bill while insisting on strong age-gating for porn and synthetic relationships. Finally, they examine mounting authoritarian tendencies: tech firms yielding to partisan government pressure (Meta, Apple, Google), Hegseth’s Pentagon press rules, Trump’s use of the IRS and DOJ, and Marc Benioff’s call for the National Guard in San Francisco, framing them as symptoms of a deeper democratic erosion and tech-sector complicity.

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