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You may know Ed Helms from his roles on The Office or in The Hangover, but building his career as a successful comedian required many moments of failure and embarrassment. In this episode, Ed joins Adam live at the Authors@Wharton series to discuss his new book, SNAFU: The Definitive Guide to History’s Greatest Screwups, look back on what Ed learned from some of his own mistakes, and uncover the common patterns among historical blunders. Follow Host: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: adamgrant.net/) Guest: Ed Helms (Instagram: @edhelms) Links Snafu: The Definitive Guide to History Greatest Screw Up Subscribe to TED Instagram: @ted YouTube: @TED TikTok: @tedtoks LinkedIn: @ted-conferences Website: ted.com Podcasts: ted.com/podcasts The TED Audio Collective is a collection of podcasts for the curious. The TED Audio Collective videos may be used for non-commercial purposes under a Creative Commons License, Attribution–Non Commercial–No Derivatives (or the CC BY – NC – ND 4.0 International) and in accordance with our TED Talks Usage Policy (https://www.ted.com/about/our-organiz...). For more information on using TED for commercial purposes (e.g. employee learning, in a film or online course), please submit a Media Request at https://media-requests.ted.com. 00:00 Intro 00:36 Learning to love failure 02:27 Ed's worst standup bomb 05:12 Breaking into showbiz 08:33 Lessons from The Office 09:53 Snafus in history 12:46 Lightning round 17:36 How to face your next snafu

Adam GranthostEd Helmsguest
Aug 8, 202519mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Ed Helms on embracing failure, community, and avoiding groupthink snafus

  1. Ed Helms argues that standup comedy trains performers to “love bombing,” treating failures as callus-building practice rather than as identity-defining events.
  2. He recounts a disastrous early set at a Long Island club—derailed by a heckler he accidentally insulted—to illustrate how unpreparedness and lack of credibility amplify failure’s sting.
  3. He explains that breaking into entertainment becomes more sustainable when you find a cohort that validates your aspirations and buffers you from social resistance and judgment.
  4. Reflecting on The Office, Helms highlights the importance of recognizing and cherishing the mundane moments that later become “the good old days.”
  5. Drawing from his SNAFU work, he emphasizes that groupthink, homogeneous decision-making, and fear-driven overconfidence are recurring causes of large-scale blunders, exemplified by a Cold War plan to nuke the moon.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Failure tolerance is a trainable skill, not a personality trait.

Helms describes bombing in standup as repeated exposure therapy: you build “calluses” by surviving painful sets and learning that the discomfort is temporary and useful.

Preparation determines whether low expectations help or hurt.

When Helms felt underprepared, failure was crushing; when he’d done the homework and had “killer jokes,” being unknown became an advantage because he could exceed expectations without reputation pressure.

A supportive cohort reduces the psychological cost of risk-taking.

He advises aspiring creatives to find people who genuinely believe their goal is worthwhile, because that social proof counters subtle skepticism (“Oh…that’s what you want to do?”) that erodes persistence.

On-camera repetition can be creative exploration, not monotony.

In contrast to the boredom of many retakes, Helms says he looks for endless novelty by tweaking angles, timing, and “top spin,” using repetition to chase an (unattainable) comedic ideal.

Nostalgia is built from small moments, so notice them earlier.

His signature Office line—wanting to know you’re in the good old days while in them—becomes a practical lesson: cherish the mundane routines and interactions, not just the “big” milestones.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Show business is a, is just a festival of failure. It, truly, and then I started in standup comedy, which is just punishment.

Ed Helms

In order to get anywhere with standup comedy, you really have to learn to love bombing, and love failing, and sort of see it as, like, uh, just building your calluses, you know? Building your toughness as a performer.

Ed Helms

And at that point, like, I lost. I just lost. The crowd won.

Ed Helms

I was so, I was so proud to be given the line the, the, in the very last episode of, of the series, "I wish there was some way to know you're in the good old days while you're actually in them."

Ed Helms

The, all the markers of success, uh, the money or the, the adulation or f- and certainly in show business, fame is a big, uh, sort of metric. They start to lose meaning at a certain point because they don't make you a better dad. They don't make you a better brother or family member or friend, and those are the things that, that matter.

Ed Helms

Learning to love failure in standupA major standup bomb and heckler dynamicsFinding your cohort/community for supportCrafting novelty through many takes on setCherishing mundane moments (“good old days”)Historical SNAFUs: Cold War moon-nuke ideaGroupthink, fear, and lack of dissent

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