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The case for male vulnerability with Luke Bateman

Women are frequently disenfranchised and discriminated against by systems that favor men, but these same systems hurt men, too. Luke Bateman is a former professional rugby player who has gained a following online making videos about his love of fantasy novels and the hidden costs of patriarchy for men and boys. In this episode, Luke opens up about how narrow ideals of masculinity led him into a cycle of addiction, and how he pulled himself out by deconstructing his beliefs about what it means to be a man. Luke and Adam discuss the psychology of “precarious manhood,” the power of vulnerability as a skill that builds resilience, and the strategies for helping men express their emotions and evolve their beliefs. Luke also reframes when it means to be a protector and provider, and encourages men and boys to find themselves in books. Follow our podcasts! ReThinking with Adam Grant: https://link.mgln.ai/kdYcyx The TED Podcasts is a collection of podcasts for the curious. The TED Podcasts videos may be used for non-commercial purposes under a Creative Commons License, Attribution–Non Commercial–No Derivatives (or the CC BY – NC – ND 4.0 International) and in accordance with our TED Talks Usage Policy (https://www.ted.com/about/our-organiz...). For more information on using TED for commercial purposes (e.g. employee learning, in a film or online course), please submit a Media Request at https://media-requests.ted.com.

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Male vulnerability as strength: redefining masculinity beyond protect-and-provide myths

  1. Luke Bateman recounts how growing up in rural Australia and playing professional rugby trained him to suppress softness and emotion, creating a split between his public persona and private inner life.
  2. He links that “precarious manhood” pressure—where weakness is punished and toughness must be constantly proven—to addiction, depression, and suicidal ideation, with substances and gambling used to numb internal pain.
  3. Bateman reframes vulnerability as a skill that builds resilience through emotion naming and cognitive reappraisal, arguing that emotional competence is foundational to strength.
  4. He challenges manosphere narratives by redefining “protecting” as preventing harm (often perpetrated by known men) and “providing” as offering emotional, physical, and spiritual safety that helps others thrive.
  5. The conversation also addresses a gendered reading gap and proposes practical ways to engage boys and men in storytelling and broaden whose voices they read, while avoiding framing that triggers defensiveness.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Patriarchy can be understood as the “socially enforced mutilation” of men’s internal worlds.

Bateman describes patriarchy not only as a system disadvantaging women, but as a culture that quietly punishes men for emotional awareness, tenderness, and need—pushing many toward numbness and disconnection. This framing aims to make men see how the same system also harms their inner lives.

Masculinity is often treated as “precarious”—hard to earn and easy to lose.

In both rural upbringings and pro sports environments, masculinity is presented as something you must constantly prove; one display of fear, sadness, or uncertainty can erase prior “credentials.” The result is chronic self-monitoring, shame, and emotional suppression.

Addiction can function as a workaround for forbidden vulnerability.

Bateman connects his depression, suicidal thinking, and addictions to the gap between his inner experience (soft, anxious, unsure) and the persona he felt required to perform (invulnerable, aggressive, unbreakable). When vulnerability is disallowed, substances and compulsions become tools for anesthesia.

“Protect and provide” should be redefined as inner regulation and creating safety—not dominance or money.

Bateman argues the common “protector/provider” ideal is externally defined and sets many men up to feel like failures; it can also rationalize control or aggression when men feel they’re losing status. He reframes protecting as preventing harm that men can cause, and providing as creating safety that helps others thrive.

Vulnerability is a learnable skill that strengthens resilience through emotion naming and reappraisal.

He emphasizes that emotional skills begin with naming feelings and understanding their causes—then reframing them (e.g., anxiety as excitement/meaning). This is learned through practice and relationships, not willpower, and becomes the basis of resilience.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

When I talk about patriarchy, I talk about the socially enforced mutilation of your internal world, and happens so silently and invisibly.

— Luke Bateman

The juxtaposition of what was happening internally and what I was pretending to be externally, like they just were at war with each other. You know, the only way that I could survive that was through addiction, was through numbing it.

— Luke Bateman

We were never really told what to be. We were told w- what not to be.

— Luke Bateman

Vulnerability is a superpower. Vulnerability is, quite frankly, I think the strongest thing that we can do.

— Luke Bateman

When we talk about, when we have this protector narrative, the man that people need to be protected from is you.

— Luke Bateman

Precarious manhood vs. “toxic masculinity” languageRugby and rural masculinity normsShame policing and emotional suppressionAddiction, depression, and suicidality as outcomesVulnerability as resilience and emotion regulationRedefining protector/provider narrativesCalling people in vs. calling out messaging strategies for men’s engagement and reading

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