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What Confident People Focus on Instead of Winning | Ballerina Isabella McGuire Mayes

Be honest: the high of a big win never lasts as long as you’d like. You nail the presentation, land the promotion, post something that takes off… and a week later, you’re already chasing the next one.

Isabella McGuire MayesguestSimon SinekhostGreat Minds
Nov 10, 202651mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Confidence grows from process, not wins, in ballet and life

  1. Isabella McGuire Mayes and Simon Sinek contrast outcome-chasing with process-focused improvement as the foundation of durable confidence.
  2. The conversation uses ballet as an extreme example of perfectionism, where students are trained to look effortless while facing intense physical and psychological pressure.
  3. Isabella recounts her path through elite Russian training, injuries, and a difficult transition back to the UK, which led her toward coaching and culture change.
  4. They argue that social media and competition incentives push young dancers toward performative “wins” that can mask weak fundamentals and heighten fear of failure.
  5. Isabella describes a coaching approach built on honest feedback, teaching the “how,” and creating low-stakes spaces for experimentation so students can learn without fear.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Outcome obsession—especially on social media—can distort confidence early.

Isabella McGuire Mayes describes a 12-year-old who begged her mother not to post a competition loss because she feared her followers seeing “failure.” Both she and Simon Sinek use this to illustrate how public, outcome-based validation can hijack a young person’s sense of success.

Wins create temporary confidence; process builds lasting confidence.

Simon Sinek argues that “chasing wins” produces short-lived confidence spikes that fade, creating a need for the next hit (likes, promotions, wins). He contrasts this with confidence that comes from building skill through sustained work.

Ballet’s culture rewards hiding effort, which can intensify pressure and perfectionism.

Isabella explains ballet is trained to look effortless, so the audience doesn’t see the athletic strain, exhaustion, or pain that may exist backstage. She contrasts this with sports, where effort is visibly expressed and understood.

Better teaching (and leadership) focuses on mechanics and partnership, not just evaluation.

Isabella says she teaches with honest feedback but in a supportive “teammate” dynamic, closer to a coach-athlete relationship than a boss-student hierarchy. She emphasizes not just stating what’s wrong, but explaining the “how” so students can repeat results consistently.

Confidence grows when people are taught how to improve—and are encouraged to try before self-limiting.

Isabella notes many students are told they lack traits like flexibility or turnout without being taught how to develop them; she credits stubbornness and willingness to try as essential. She also observes many people limit themselves before attempting the process.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We've become so obsessed with outcome, we've forgotten process.

— Simon Sinek

I would say my heart wants it, you know? And I'm driven day in, day out by a, a soul connection, and it's not something I can even choose to do. It's something I, I have to do with my soul.

— Isabella McGuire Mayes

I think you should be on the same level with your students and make it seem very much like we're a team doing this together.

— Isabella McGuire Mayes

Whereas what I'm learning from you is if you focus 75% on process, the confidence you're building is innate.

— Simon Sinek

If you leave this room just slightly better than yesterday, then you're doing great.

— Isabella McGuire Mayes

Read the available transcript
Outcome obsession vs processConfidence spikes from wins and likesBallet as athletic perfectionismVaganova Academy training cultureInjuries, isolation, and leaving RussiaTeaching the “how,” not just the resultExperimentation and low-stakes learning (the “ballet lab”)

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SPEAKERS

  • Isabella McGuire Mayes

    guest

    Professional ballerina and ballet teacher trained at the Royal Ballet School and Russia’s Vaganova Ballet Academy.

  • Simon Sinek

    hostGreat Minds guide

    Author and leadership speaker who hosts the podcast A Bit of Optimism.

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