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What Confident People Focus on Instead of Winning | Ballerina Isabella McGuire Mayes

Be honest: the high of a big win never lasts as long as you’d like. You nail the presentation, land the promotion, post something that takes off… and a week later, you’re already chasing the next one.

Isabella McGuire MayesguestSimon SinekhostGreat Minds
Nov 10, 202651mWatch on YouTube

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EPISODE INFO

Released
November 10, 2026
Duration
51m
Channel
Simon Sinek
Watch on YouTube
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Be honest: the high of a big win never lasts as long as you’d like. You nail the presentation, land the promotion, post something that takes off… and a week later, you’re already chasing the next one. Ballerina Isabella McGuire Mayes has found a steadier kind of confidence. And she found it in ballet, where perfection is always the goal, and every class ends the same way: imperfect. Isabella is a coach, a podcast host and the founder of ISABELLA, an online ballet platform for dancers of every age and level. After auditioning three times, she was accepted to Russia’s legendary Vaganova Academy at 15, the same school that produced Nureyev and Baryshnikov. She graduated top of her class and danced with two major Russian ballet companies before a string of serious injuries brought her home. Teaching, however, is what brought her back to ballet. Today, through ISABELLA, her podcast “A Dancer’s Mindset,” and intensives that sell out in minutes, she’s working to change the culture of ballet itself. In this conversation, Isabella shows me why ballet, an extreme example of perfectionism, might be the best place to learn where real confidence comes from. And her lessons reach far beyond the studio, into how we lead, coach, prioritize, and give feedback. *In this episode you’ll learn:* ➡️ Why confidence from winning comes in peaks and valleys (+ where the steady kind comes from) ➡️ The 75/25 rule for process vs. performance ➡️ How to give honest feedback that people can actually hear ➡️ Why confidence has to come before feedback can land ➡️ Why great coaches show you how (+ why most leaders stop at what) ➡️ What a 12-year-old Instagram star taught Isabella about our obsession with winning ➡️ Why Isabella took the prizes out of her ballet labs (+ what happened next) ➡️ What we lose when we prioritize outcomes over process ➡️ The one question Isabella asks every student who’s lost sight of what matters Isabella may teach ballet, but her lessons are for all of us, on stage or off. Because confidence is built in first position, long before first place. *This… is A Bit of Optimism.* + + + To train with Isabella on her online ballet platform ISABELLA, head to: https://balletwithisabella.com Want to hear more from Isabella? Check out her podcast "A Dancer's Mindset": https://balletwithisabella.com/podcasts + + + *Chapters* 00:00:00 The 12-Year-Old Ballerina Who Feared Posting Her Failure 00:02:47 From Screaming Under the Piano to the Vaganova Academy 00:05:28 Inside the Vaganova Academy: Where Legends Are Made 00:09:29 The Athletic Reality of Ballet That Nobody Talks About 00:13:34 How Insecurity Is Built Into Ballet From Day One 00:14:26 Injuries and the Decision to Leave Russia 00:17:01 Why Ballet Is a Passion, Not an Addiction 00:18:53 Teaching Differently: The Coach, Not the Boss 00:25:13 The Problem With Outcome Obsession and Social Media 00:30:43 The Ballet Lab: Creating a Space for Experimentation 00:32:47 Confidence Comes From Process, Not Winning 00:41:33 The Student Who Finally Understood Inspiration 00:45:36 What Perfectionists Can Learn From Ballet 00:47:43 When Teachers Project Their Own Insecurities 00:49:05 The John Wooden Philosophy: Train to Improve, Play to Win 00:50:37 Why Coaching Should Be Normal, Not Special + + + Simon is an unshakable optimist. He believes in a bright future and our ability to build it together. Described as “a visionary thinker with a rare intellect,” Simon has devoted his professional life to help advance a vision of the world that does not yet exist; a world in which the vast majority of people wake up every single morning inspired, feel safe wherever they are and end the day fulfilled by the work that they do. Simon is the author of multiple best-selling books including _Start With Why,_ _Leaders Eat Last,_ _Together is Better,_ and _The Infinite Game._ + + + Website: http://simonsinek.com/ Leaderful: https://simonsinek.com/leaderful Podcast: http://apple.co/simonsinek Instagram: https://instagram.com/simonsinek/ Linkedin: https://linkedin.com/in/simonsinek/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/simonsinek Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/simonsinek + + + #SimonSinek

SPEAKERS

  • Isabella McGuire Mayes

    guest

    Professional ballerina and ballet teacher trained at the Royal Ballet School and Russia’s Vaganova Ballet Academy.

  • Simon Sinek

    hostGreat Minds guide

    Author and leadership speaker who hosts the podcast A Bit of Optimism.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Simon Sinek, featuring Isabella McGuire Mayes and Simon Sinek, What Confident People Focus on Instead of Winning | Ballerina Isabella McGuire Mayes explores Confidence grows from process, not wins, in ballet and life Isabella McGuire Mayes and Simon Sinek contrast outcome-chasing with process-focused improvement as the foundation of durable confidence.

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