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Dr. Dominic D'Agostino on Fasting, Ketosis, and The End of Cancer

Dr. Dominic “Dom” D’Agostino (@DominicDAgosti2) is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Molecular Pharmacology and Physiology at the University of South Florida Morsani College of Medicine, and a Senior Research Scientist at the Institute for Human and Machine Cognition (IHMC). He has also deadlifted 500 pounds for 10 reps after a seven-day fast. The primary focus of Dom’s laboratory is developing and testing metabolic therapies, including ketogenic diets, ketone esters and ketone supplements to induce nutritional/therapeutic ketosis. Connect with Dom D'Agostino: Like Dom D'Agostino on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dominic.dagostino.1 Follow Dom D'Agostino on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DominicDAgosti2 Follow Dom D'Agostino on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dominic.dagostino.kt Show Notes: https://tim.blog/2015/11/03/dominic-dagostino/ 00:00 Start 5:28 What Dom does 9:53 The Institutional Review Board (IRB) 12:13 Research on advanced lifters in ketosis 15:53 Can you get big and strong when in ketosis? 20:48 Defining ketones and ketosis 28:23 Preventing neurodegenerative diseases 30:48 Cachexia, sarcopenia, anabolism, and catabolism 34:48 Anabolic agents and cancer patients 38:53 The advantage of SARMS 43:23 Mimicking benefits of fasting with exogenous ketones 49:18 Accelerating the induction of ketone projection 56:13 Ketone esters 1:16:08 Benefits of eating exogenous ketones (especially in Italy) 1:20:43 The traveling ketogenic breakfast 1:25:08 Reasons for using glutamine 1:32:18 On being considered a “nutritionist” 1:41:38 Metformin and cancer survival rates 1:46:18 What Dom would do if he had cancer 2:03:03 Thoughts on therapeutic fasting 2:08:23 Observations of people who experiment with fasting 2:14:33 Risks of consuming a cocktail of exogenous ketones 2:22:45 Foods and beverages that spike ketone levels 2:41:33 Top resources 2:43:13 Most gifted books 2:50:18 Fighting Lyme Disease with the ketogenic diet 2:53:18 The effect of ketosis on mitochondria 2:55:53 Healing from use of antibiotics SUBSCRIBE: http://bit.ly/1dSzTkW About Tim Ferriss: Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 200 million downloads and been selected for “Best of iTunes” three years running. Connect with Tim Ferriss: Visit the Tim Ferriss PODCAST: https://bit.ly/2rYjUBr Visit the Tim Ferriss BLOG: http://bit.ly/17jDHw3 Like Tim Ferriss on FACEBOOK: http://on.fb.me/1avYUxq Follow Tim Ferriss on TWITTER: http://bit.ly/17d94TE Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: http://bit.ly/2IfH37J Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: http://bit.ly/2IfH37J

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Dom D’Agostino explains ketosis, exogenous ketones, and metabolic cancer strategies

  1. Dr. Dominic D’Agostino explains what ketosis and ketone bodies are, how fasting and ketogenic diets produce them, and why he sees ketones as both fuels and signaling molecules.
  2. He summarizes a study in advanced resistance-trained lifters where a ketogenic diet maintained or improved strength and hypertrophy while producing more favorable fat loss than a Western diet control.
  3. He describes potential therapeutic applications—especially in cancer support—emphasizing ketogenic diets, intermittent fasting, exogenous ketones, and metabolic drugs like metformin (and discussing DCA as another candidate).
  4. He details exogenous ketones (salts and esters), including what ketone esters are, how quickly they can raise blood ketones, and why this might mimic parts of fasting physiology.
  5. He discusses practical implementation: how he personally eats (a ketogenic breakfast, fat-forward meals, fiber, and ketone/MCT use), and shares resources for learning more.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Ketosis is a measurable metabolic state driven by low insulin and liver ketone production.

He describes ketosis as the result of low insulin and depleted liver glycogen, prompting the liver to convert fatty acids into water-soluble ketone bodies that can fuel the brain and other tissues; he notes clinical ketosis is commonly defined as blood ketones above about 0.5 mM.

In Dom’s advanced-lifter study, ketogenic dieting did not prevent strength or hypertrophy and improved body composition.

He summarizes an (at-the-time) under-review study of 12 advanced resistance-trained subjects: a ketogenic diet group (very low carbs, high fat, higher protein than a classical ketogenic diet) maintained or improved strength and showed muscle hypertrophy, with more favorable fat loss compared to a Western diet control group.

Dom frames ketones as muscle-preserving, especially during calorie deficits or fasting.

He says ketones are anti-catabolic and protein-sparing (one reason prolonged fasting is survivable), in part because ketones can help meet brain energy needs and reduce reliance on gluconeogenic amino acids from muscle.

Dom argues ketones act as signaling molecules that may affect gene expression and inflammation.

He cites work indicating beta-hydroxybutyrate functions beyond fuel—e.g., as a histone deacetylase (HDAC) inhibitor linked to antioxidant gene upregulation, and he references findings that ketones can inhibit an inflammatory pathway (an inflammasome) in ways not solely explained by metabolism.

Exogenous ketones may mimic parts of fasting and make adaptation easier, though they may reduce fasting’s stress signal.

He describes exogenous ketones (ketone salts/esters) as a way to rapidly raise blood ketones and potentially “smooth” the transition into fasting/ketosis by reducing the early “fuel gap” symptoms (brain fog, stress response), while also noting the hormetic argument that some stress might be beneficial.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I did go to the gym. Yeah, I, I deadlifted 500 pounds for 10, and I, uh, and I finished off with a one rep of 585, six plates.

— Dr. Dominic D'Agostino

We know that ketones are anti-catabolic. You know, that's why we can fast for 40 days, and the ketones have an anti-catabolic protein-sparing effect.

— Dr. Dominic D'Agostino

So being in a state of fasting ketosis can sensitize the tumor to the damaging effects of the chemo and, and enhance your healthy cells' resistance against the toxic effects of, of the, of the, um, chemotherapeutic agent.

— Dr. Dominic D'Agostino

Cancer cells cannot use ketones effectively as an energy source because they have defective mitochondria.

— Dr. Dominic D'Agostino

I would say a five to seven-day fast two to three times, uh, not per day, per year.

— Dr. Dominic D'Agostino

Defining ketones and nutritional ketosisFasting vs ketogenic diets and adaptationAdvanced resistance training in ketosis (strength/hypertrophy)Exogenous ketones (salts vs esters) and pharmacokineticsKetones as signaling molecules (HDAC, inflammation)Cancer cachexia and preserving lean massMetabolic cancer strategies (keto, intermittent fasting, metformin, DCA)

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