Tim FerrissThe Strategies and Tactics for Building a Bestseller from Nothing — Elan Lee of Exploding Kittens
At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Tim Ferriss and Elan Lee reveal how COYOTE became retail-ready
- Tim Ferriss and Elan Lee describe the two-year process of co-creating the card game COYOTE, from early prototypes to retail distribution.
- Elan Lee lays out practical game design principles: bias toward simplicity, design for player interaction, and create a difficulty ramp that alternates confidence with new constraints.
- They explain how COYOTE emerged from combining cooperative play inspiration (like Hanabi) with the ‘players playing players’ dynamic of repeated Rock, Paper, Scissors.
- Elan Lee details Exploding Kittens’ playtesting system (video-based ‘Kitty Test Pilots’) and why typical market research testing is misleading for games.
- The conversation breaks down how games are sold at scale via retailer line reviews, why agents matter, and why short-form social video has become central to marketing plans.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasStay outcome-open during brainstorming to make iteration inevitable.
He describes the “zero effect” as shifting from hunting for one perfect solution to hunting for anything usable, then iterating. In his view, that mindset makes brainstorming enjoyable and keeps teams willing to test lots of “what if” variants without fear of failure.
Design for player-to-player interaction, not a game that performs for the table.
He says his foundational design premise is that games shouldn’t be entertaining on their own; they should make the players entertaining by creating interaction and “players playing players.” He contrasts this with pitches he dismisses where the game works hard to entertain while players feel isolated or are effectively “playing solitaire.”
Less complication (in rules and components) is a primary path to more fun.
He argues simplicity is a feature: remove components and rule nuance whenever possible, and treat any “except if…” branching as a warning sign. He ties this to writing rules with a “beginner’s mind,” anticipating confusion points the way a live explainer would.
Build a repeating confidence-and-challenge cycle to hit the difficulty sweet spot.
He describes a difficulty ramp where players must first feel “I can do that,” then quickly encounter a twist that blocks autopilot, followed by “I know what I have to do” and “I can do that too.” He says sustaining this loop is the craft of keeping people engaged and progressing toward mastery.
Test games in the real social context—then judge readiness by ‘do you want to play again?’
He calls the industry’s typical external testing (strangers in a room with a one-way mirror and surveys) “fundamentally flawed,” since most people play games with friends, not strangers. Exploding Kittens built “Kitty Test Pilots,” mailing prototypes to families/friend groups who record play sessions; the key question at the end is whether they want to play again, and the team uses video to spot unspoken confusion (like reactions to instructions).
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesMy fundamental premise behind all game design is games should not be entertaining, games should make the players entertaining.
— Elan Lee
If, if it takes longer than five minutes to explain a game, I am gone.
— Elan Lee
The testing procedure that all these other companies go through is fundamentally flawed.
— Elan Lee
Every responsibility is my responsibility, not theirs.
— Elan Lee
70% of our sales are in-person retail. Only 30% are online sales.
— Elan Lee
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