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This week, famed chef and author Asma Khan joins Trevor and Eugene for a conversation that shreds traditional fine-dining elitism to pieces. The trio discusses Asma’s upbringing in India, the frustration of over-complicated modern technology, and how she discovered her passion for cooking through pure homesickness after moving to England. Between tales of hitting cheating childhood friends with cricket bats and surviving Cambridge’s soul-crushingly bad food, Asma gets real about how food is truly about identity, storytelling, and dismantling imperialist garbage. What's one meal that instantly takes you back to a memory? Subscribe for new episodes of What Now? with Trevor Noah every week here: http://bit.ly/SubscribeTrevorNoah Or follow the podcast on your other favorite platforms... SiriusXM Apple Podcasts - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnApplePodcasts Spotify - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnSpotify #TrevorNoah #WhatNowPodcast #asmakhan 00:00 - Trevor's hilarious cooking confession 02:00 - Trevor vs. his "smart" stove 09:40 - Meet Asma Khan 15:30 - Growing up feeling unwanted 23:30 - Childhood, resilience & survival 42:30 - Cricket, courage & confidence 55:00 - How food became her identity 1:06:00 - Food, colonialism & injustice 1:19:00 - Why cooking is about people 1:27:00 - Why Michelin culture is broken 1:40:00 - There is no such thing as "curry" 1:55:00 - The toxic culture inside professional kitchens 2:07:00 - The legacy Asma Khan wants to leave

Trevor NoahhostAsma KhanguestEugenehost
Jul 23, 20262h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Asma Khan on food, identity, colonialism, and kinder kitchens today

  1. Asma Khan traces her drive and resilience to a childhood marked by gender bias, colorism, and feeling “unwanted,” countered by her sister’s quiet belief in her strength.
  2. She explains how migrating to Cambridge—lonely, cold, and culturally disorienting—pushed her to cook as a way to reconnect with her mother, ancestors, and a sense of home.
  3. Khan argues food is inseparable from history and injustice, using examples like Bengal’s poppy seeds and the opium trade to show how colonialism shaped what people ate and why.
  4. She critiques the fine-dining/Michelin value system as culturally narrow and class-coded, and challenges the “ethnic food” framing that diminishes non-European cuisines.
  5. Khan condemns abuse in professional kitchens as normalized and glamorized, and frames her women-led, open-kitchen model as a legacy project to make hospitality humane and accountable.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Food can be an anchor for identity when everything else feels uprooted.

Khan describes learning to cook in Cambridge not from passion or tradition, but from homesickness—aromas became a bridge to her mother and matriarchal lineage when she felt isolated and culturally adrift.

Language around food often carries colonial power dynamics.

Her claim that “there is no such thing as curry” frames the term as an English umbrella that flattens thousands of distinct regional dishes, making a vast culture easier to categorize and consume.

Ingredients can encode trauma and exploitation, not just flavor.

Khan’s refusal to use poppy seeds is a deliberate ethical stance rooted in Bengal’s forced poppy cultivation for British opium exports, linking a pantry staple to empire and famine pressure.

Fine-dining standards can function as class gates disguised as ‘quality.’

She critiques Michelin culture and “one-inch food on a ten-inch plate” aesthetics as Eurocentric signals of refinement that marginalize cuisines built around abundance, sharing, and staples like rice and bread.

Visibility changes empathy—open kitchens challenge consumer detachment.

By moving to an open-kitchen restaurant, Khan wants diners to see the people and labor behind the meal, countering the basement-kitchen norm and the modern separation created by delivery culture.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

I want to bring the edifice down. I want to break every door and every window that keeps out people like me.

Asma Khan

When the day you leave your mother's womb, we're all migrants.

Asma Khan

My sister... would hold my hand in the darkness away from everybody and tell me, "Asma, you're the warrior princess. When you speak, the earth will shake. One day the world will know who you are." I believed her.

Asma Khan

Food became then not, uh, not something I ate, but it became everything, my identity, my culture, my religion, my everything, my name.

Asma Khan

There is no respect, and where there is no respect on the table, I will not serve.

Asma Khan

Childhood gender bias, colorism, and belongingMigration, loneliness, and cooking as connectionFood as history: colonialism, empire, and labor“Curry” as linguistic simplification and cultural erasureClass signaling in fine dining and Michelin standardsOpen kitchens, visibility of labor, and seasonalityKitchen toxicity, abuse, and women’s leadership/solidarity

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