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Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal5 Skills To Succeed in ANY Career - Helen Tupper (Squiggly Careers)
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Five skills for navigating squiggly careers: values, strengths, confidence, networks, possibilities
- Helen Tupper defines a “squiggly career” as a flexible journey of jobs where success isn’t limited to upward promotions and people have more freedom to shape development.
- She argues many people end up in jobs they don’t enjoy due to limited self-awareness, attraction to “shiny objects” (status symbols, grades, salary, perks), and defaulting to others’ expectations.
- She outlines practical ways to build self-awareness—especially through a career-highs-and-lows “career graph”—and stresses balancing fulfillment across work and life to avoid making work your sole identity.
- She reframes strengths as activities that give energy (and weaknesses as energy drains), encouraging people to choose what they want to be known for and reduce time spent on draining tasks.
- She presents networking as “people helping people,” highlights four key relationship roles (mentor, peer, sponsor, coach), and describes exploring future possibilities through curious conversations rather than rigid plans.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasA squiggly career replaces “the only way is up” with flexibility and personal choice.
She describes a squiggly career as one where people develop in different directions (sideways, back, or into new areas), rather than assuming the only “good” move is upward seniority.
The career ladder can trap people in comparison and disillusionment when promotions aren’t available.
She says the ladder model pushes a surface-level definition of success, encourages comparison, and can create “progression perfectionism” that stops people experimenting and learning from moves.
Values can be uncovered by analyzing the conditions behind your career highs and lows.
She suggests mapping a “career graph” of highs and lows and probing what was present in highs (and missing in lows) to collect clues about what motivates you.
Don’t let work become your only fulfillment source—balance reduces vulnerability to work volatility.
She argues the danger is making work the sole source of fulfillment, which can make happiness overly sensitive to work setbacks; she encourages finding balanced sources of fulfillment inside and outside work.
Clarifying the meaning behind money can change how strongly pay drives your career choices.
She suggests that to balance money and meaning, people should identify what “more money” symbolizes for them (status, security, freedom, significance) and “unhook” dependency on pay where possible.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesIt's about not being limited by a ladder, not thinking that the only way is up, and that the only destination in terms of success is becoming more senior.
— Helen Tupper
I think there is a really big risk that we try to make work the sole source of our fulfillment.
— Helen Tupper
When you work out the meaning behind the money, you can actually unhook some of your sort of dependency on the pay.
— Helen Tupper
Strength's the things that give you energy in the work that you do.
— Helen Tupper
Weaknesses are the things you do that take your energy away when you do them, even if you are good at them.
— Helen Tupper
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SPEAKERS
Helen Tupper
guestCo-author of The Squiggly Career and co-founder of Amazing If, known for career development frameworks and the Squiggly Careers concept.
Ali Abdaal
hostDoctor-turned-YouTuber and podcaster behind Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal, focused on productivity and career development.
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