Brené and Adam on What They Will Never Agree On

Welcome to The Curiosity Shop! In the inaugural episode, Brené and Adam discuss how a public disagreement about authenticity almost ended their relationship before it began. For the first time, they discuss where they went wrong, why they changed their minds about each other, and what they learned about repair and trust. They also explore what healthy authenticity looks like, and dive into the many things they may still never fully see eye to eye on – from email vs. texting to remote work to faith. 0:00 Introduction 8:10 Our First Disagreement 25:50 Our Path Here 34:28 How to Repair an Apology 52:59 Closing Question Unless You’re Oprah, ‘Be Yourself’ Is Terrible Advice - Adam Grant 2016 NYT Op-Ed https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/05/opinion/sunday/unless-youre-oprah-be-yourself-is-terrible-advice.html#:~:text=But%20for%20most%20people%2C%20%E2%80%9Cbe,that%20are%20better%20left%20unspoken. The Fine Line Between Helpful and Harmful Authenticity - Adam Grant 2020 NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/smarter-living/the-fine-line-between-helpful-and-harmful-authenticity.html Authenticity Is a Double-Edged Sword - Adam Grant 2020 WorkLife with Adam Grant Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/authenticity-is-a-double-edged-sword/id1346314086?i=1000470721542 My response to Adam Grant’s New York Times Op/ED: Unless You’re Oprah, ‘Be Yourself’ Is Terrible Advice - Brené Brown LinkedIn 2016 https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-response-adam-grants-new-york-times-oped-unless-youre-bren%C3%A9-brown/ The Dangers of Being Authentic - Adam Grant LinkedIn 2016 https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dangers-being-authentic-adam-grant In Tough Times, Psychological Safety Is a Requirement, Not a Luxury - Michael Blanding 2025 HBR https://hbr.org/2025/11/in-tough-times-psychological-safety-is-a-requirement-not-a-luxury Jecker & Landy: Liking a person as a function of doing him a favour - Jecker & Landy 1969 APA PsycNet https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1970-08381-001 Adam Grant on The Power of Knowing What You Don’t Know - Brené Brown and Adam Grant 2021 Dare To Lead Podcast https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-with-adam-grant-on-the-power-of-knowing-what-you-dont-know/ Brené Brown on What Vulnerability Isn’t - Adam Grant and Brené Brown 2023 Re: Thinking Ted Audio Collective https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXVhDSBiZCI A Whole New Mind (Right-Brainers will Rule the Future) - Daniel H. Pink 2005 Book https://www.danpink.com/books/whole-new-mind/ The Neuroscience of You: How Every Brain Is Different and How to Understand Yours - Chantel Prat 2022 Book https://www.libraryjournal.com/review/the-neuroscience-of-you-how-every-brain-is-different-and-how-to-understand-yours-1788635 Dr. Harriet Lerner on I’m Sorry: How to Apologize and Why It Matters, Part 1 of 2 - Brené Brown and Dr. Harriet Lerner 2020 Unlocking Us Podcast https://brenebrown.com/podcast/harriet-lerner-and-brene-im-sorry-how-to-apologize-why-it-matters-part-1-of-2/ Happy Gilmore Scene - I’m Stupid You’re Smart - Happy Gilmore 1996 Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edyVNlo5uW0 Shame and Guilt - June Price Tangney 2002 Book https://www.amazon.com/Shame-Guilt-Emotions-Social-Behavior/dp/1572309873 Daniel Kahneman: Doesn't Trust Your Intuition - Adam Grant and Daniel Kahneman 2021 Re:Thinking https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/daniel-kahneman-doesnt-trust-your-intuition/id1554567118?i=1000513178386 But yes, Blue Jays are master mimics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gmVOMEhMj8