Five Guys CEO: How we built a burger empire WITHOUT ANY Marketing: John Eckbert | E168

ℹ️ EPISODE INFO

Released

August 11, 2022

Duration

1h 42m

Channel

The Diary of a CEO

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📝 EPISODE DESCRIPTION

John Eckbert is the CEO of Five Guys in Europe. By far the most successful ‘posh burger’ chain in Britain, John tells us how he took a classic concept to a whole new content by inventing a unique business model. 00:00 Intro 01:26 What shaped your business mentality? 08:20 Five Guy’s journey 20:14 Building a successful business without marketing 29:52 How to stop employees becoming compliant 33:06 Installing company values 39:27 Hiring the best people 46:42 Attention to detail 50:43 How do you keep calm? 55:18 Hardest moments & how to handle them 01:09:38 Critical feedback, standards & customer service 01:14:53 Business decisions and their impact 01:18:46 What’s the biggest threat to Five Guys? 01:20:01 What makes you happy? 01:26:00 Self-awareness 01:32:13 What’s are the foundations of your future? 01:37:37 Our last guest’s question Are you ready to think like a CEO? Gain access to the 100 CEOs newsletter here: ⁠https://bit.ly/100-ceos-newsletter Five Guys: https://fiveguys.co.uk/ Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: Huel - https://my.huel.com/Steven BlueJeans - https://www.bluejeans.com/ Carpets gifted from Tapi - https://bit.ly/3P10anj Chandelier & Lights gifted from Tom Kirk Lighting - https://bit.ly/3Q6vJxd

🎤 SPEAKERS

• John Eckbert

  guest

• Steven Bartlett

  host

• Narrator

  other

🧾 EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of The Diary of a CEO, featuring John Eckbert and Steven Bartlett, Five Guys CEO: How we built a burger empire WITHOUT ANY Marketing: John Eckbert | E168 explores five Guys’ CEO: Obsessive Quality, Zero Ads, Radical Humanity Build Empire John Eckbert, CEO of Five Guys Europe, explains how the brand built a global burger empire without any traditional advertising by obsessing over product quality, simplicity, and word-of-mouth. He details the strategic UK expansion, including flagship locations and a strict focus on fresh, customizable burgers and fries as the sole offering. Eckbert also breaks down Five Guys’ operational culture: values-led hiring, negative selling of roles, heavy investment in training, and mystery shopping that replaces ad spend with frontline incentives. Throughout, he is strikingly vulnerable about divorce, losing day‑to‑day contact with his children, mental health, and how confronting his own blind spots reshaped his leadership and life.

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